Why Doesn't T/C make 16 to 18 inch encore barrels?

[xnaerughiazk]

Why don't they make runs of shorter Encore barrels?

one of the beauty of the setup is the shortness of the action and they have to make mostly 24 26 28 inch barrels, a few 20 and they will make 15 but god forbid a 16 or a 18.

And why don't they chamber some pistol rounds like 357 or 44 in these shorter barrels?

There are numerous lever actions coming unto the market with short barrels in 357 and 44 etc, but T/C is stuck in nowhere land producing only bottle neck cartridges in their encore rifle barrels in fishing pole lengths.

Someone sell an reasonable priced encore barrel in 357 or 44 on a 16 or 18 inch barrel and you should be able to make a profit

[Unlicensed Dremel]

Great question, thank you.

Relatedly, why on earth is the Taurus Circuit Judges in .44 mag and .22lr/.22mag an 18" rather than 16" rifle? Makes less than no sense.

[taylorce1]

I have a 16.5" Bergara barrel in .300 AAC Blackout, while a neat concept it changes the balance of the rifle. The rifle goes from either a slightly nose heavy or neutral balance, to a butstock heavy rifle. This is why I think T/C doesn't offer shorter barrels in rifles. My barrel is threaded for a suppressor and if I were to get one, I think it would greatly improve the handling characteristics of the rifle.

[darkgael]

You can, of course, have a barrel made in any length that you wish and chambered for just about any cartridge.
It just takes money.
There are a few 20" barrels.

Pete

[Unlicensed Dremel]

The rifle goes from either a slightly nose heavy or neutral balance, to a butstock heavy rifle. This is why I think T/C doesn't offer shorter barrels in rifles.

I also think that's it; hence, they don't sell as well. The snapshooters don't like the rear-heavy rigs.

[44 AMP]

There is also the fact that the Encore is built for rifle rounds too much for the Contender, and since the single shot offers a longer barrel for the same or less length than a repeater, why give up any barrel length (performance) when you don't need to?

SO you get a buying public that is buying the Encore, because of the performance it offers, and some are unwilling to trade that performance for making a short gun shorter.

[tdoyka]

i have two encores, 6.5 creedmoor and 20 vartarg, both have 16 1/4" factory heavy barrels. the 6.5 goes .3" at 100 yards and the 20 vt goes .2" at 100 yards... 3 shots on both. the next will be a 21" factory heavy 444 marlin and a 27" 22-250 ackley improved factory heavy barrel. its hard to beat MGM Barrels!!!!

http://matchgrademachine.com/

[johnwilliamson062]

MGM Barrels run about double the encore barrels.
They do seem to hold their value much better though.

[tdoyka]

$250-$300 for a pistol
$350-$400 for a rifle

[NavyVet1959]

Personally, I wish they made a long barrel in .357mag or even better, .357max.

[tdoyka]

http://matchgrademachine.com/

they do. i was going to get a 357 max 21" barrel, but i decided on a 444 marlin.

[xnaerughiazk]

I posed this question 3 years ago during my search for a 44 mag barrel for my encore.

I finally found a 44 mag barrel this summer, but it was 22 inches long and in full contour. Full contour as in I had to put a 209 x 50 forearm on it and it is essentially weighs similar to a 209 x 50 muzzle loader with a 20 inch barrel.

Let's say it isn't muzzle light.

Now I had to have a 44 mag barrel for an encore even though it weighs a ton and 300 bucks no less. This is the sickness that can occur with owning an encore frame.

[Snyper]

It may be partly due to the fact that rifles have both an minimum barrel length and a minimum overall length. They both have to meet the requirements.

There really isn't that much demand for a 16" rifle barrel on an action type that is already shorter than most designs.

[xnaerughiazk]

Apparently that is so, though I can't imagine why.

A small contour 16 inch barrel on a encore with a pistol cartridge with full stock would be light and handy granted a bit whippy but easily over the 26 inch ATf overall length.

They have these AR pistols now a days with an extended piece out the back of the receiver that ATF won't let you use as a support while firing. see them touted as a hunting pistol in a gun mag.

with the encore or contender, you'd have a 16 inch barrel with a stock not much longer than the AR pistol, just seems odd.

[GarrettJ]

I get the argument against smaller pistol calibers. As noted, it's a heavy frame, designed for the calibers too powerful for the Contender.

However, I think T/C is missing an opportunity. If people already have the Encore, they might be more inclined to buy another barrel before they buy another complete gun.

[GarrettJ]

Also, I don't get why they do 15" barrels. Make them an inch longer, and they're just as unhandy as a 15" pistol. But the owner could then decide if they wanted to set the gun up as either a rifle or a pistol.

I have successfully stayed away from the Encore series. I find those things tend to multiply, and I've already got a few Contender parts and pieces.

[SHR970]

Could it be Firearm overall length?

[MarkCO]

I have had a few 16 and 18 inch Encore barrels. In fact my 18" (16.25 rifled) Katahdin in .444 Marlin is listed on Ebay. I have found the short barrels to work well hunting heavy timber especially crawling over deadfall. They shoot lights out as well.

[johnwilliamson062]

Also, I don't get why they do 15" barrels. Make them an inch longer, and they're just as unhandy as a 15" pistol. But the owner could then decide if they wanted to set the gun up as either a rifle or a pistol.

The only explanation I've come up with is they are avoiding regulations in a restricted market somewhere.

[fourbore]

I would not be interested in a TC single shot with less than a 20" barrel. How about supply and demand? A person wants it short, it is a simple $100 gunsmith job. I do have a marlin 44 lever with 16.5 barrel and I can carry it under my coat or poncho in a storm. I can see where a TC would be really handy. It is not a mainstream need. I dont think?

It is a miracle we can still buy anything in a TC single shot. It is no longer TC, it is SMITH and WESSON.