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May 1, 2013, 05:21 PM | #1 |
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Article on the "reinvention" of the AK-47
While the article is from a dubious source. It is still kinda fun to read, and its short.
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May 2, 2013, 03:37 AM | #2 |
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You might want to edit your post to include some more information on the article. As it is now, your thread will probably be considered a drive-by and stands a good chance of being locked by the mods.
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May 2, 2013, 08:11 AM | #3 |
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I guess Russian mall ninjas gotta have their toys, too.
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Could it be because the Soviets "gave" away millions to third world countries??? And these third world countries have hundreds of little kids "hand loading" ammo for those millions of AKs out there. Bet you all those do dad's in the link wont be going to these same third world countries.
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May 2, 2013, 11:13 AM | #7 |
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And the Smith and Wesson Sigma series is one of the most popular handguns out there, doesn't make it the best, or good for that matter.
It's best part is generally when you see an AK vs AR debate its based on the AR guys wanting all the little do-dads and toys to go on their guns, and the AK guys boast they want a bigger is better round and they don't need bolt on toys. Funny that Russia, started using a smaller caliber in their AKM rifles, and now they are doing just what we do with our AR15's, bolt on all kinds of goodies. I guess imitation really is the biggest form of flattery. |
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Actually, the AK isn't a battle rifle, it's an assault rifle. I don't think the Soviets ever really had a battle rifle, used in any numbers, after the Mosin-Nagant? |
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May 2, 2013, 11:53 AM | #9 |
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it's been done by civilians for years and it still is not the equal to an AR15.
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No matter which side you are on, you have to admit that both are great rifles. And if everyone only bought AR's, there would be no variety. All personal preference. I for one like toys on my ak AND ar15.
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May 2, 2013, 12:43 PM | #11 |
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both are good, the AR is just much better in my own not-at-all-humble opinion. if everyone owned ARs there would still be 4 times as many calibers as it would if everyone owned AKS and ARs range from long range target models to close range mall ninjas to wood clad oddballs, there would still be quite a bit of variety
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SKS is kindof right on the precipice of being a battle rifle as well... just throwing that out there
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May 2, 2013, 02:12 PM | #14 |
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Either way, I'm glad I currently have the right to own both. I do like my AR more, but the AK isn't leaving my collection any time in my lifetime.
It's like comparing the original 1911 to a new HK. The HK has more options, but there is something about the simplicity of that 1911 that draws us all in.
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I'd love to own an AK-12, but sadly...it will only be in my dreams.
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May 2, 2013, 04:50 PM | #16 |
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I'd be more interested in a Galil than a revamped AK, and isn't the Sig 550 series supposed to be somewhat of an improved AK design?
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I'm very happy with my Chinese AKM that I modernized myself
a few years ago and it's good to see others modernizing theirs.
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Boy, some of you guys are hard on the AK platform. It offers a lot of bang for the buck.
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The AK DID NOT defeat the US Soldier using the M16. There was no major battle anywhere where the AK was used against the M16 where the AK came out on top. Best go back and read a bit of history. The NVA were defeated on the ground and according to the Paris Peace Accords was to remain in the North and Vietnam was to remain divided. That was in the Spring of '73, in the spring of '75 (two years later) the NVA re-invaded the south and our weak kneed powers to be failed to honor our commitment to our allies and did nothing except cut off all funds to the RVN, not even allowing them small arms ammo - no bullets. I don't care what gun you have, its useless without bullets.
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It's popular because it works reliably with minimum maintence as opposed to the M16 which must be cleaned regularly. It's also cheap/easy to manufacture and is chambered for a round(7.62x39) which is effective at the range most fire fights occur at. The only thing better about the M-16 is accuracy, provided it's been kept clean and isn't jammed.
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That said, I own both ARs and AKs, and they are both great rifles. The whole "which is better" argument is moot. I love both platforms. They are both incredibly reliable. But, if the situation demanded it, though, I'd be grabbing my AR. Maybe if I was an illiterate farmer or child soldier, though, I might have a different opinion. |
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That said the AK12 looks pretty sweet, hopefully someone like Arsenal will be able to produce one for sale here in the US. I love the AR but to be quite honest it bores me.
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I was thinking about that afterwards. I guess I didn't really mean simple. I meant more like old-school styling.
If I would have compared an AK to a Glock, I think more people would hate the AK. More people like the 1911 over a Glock.
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May 3, 2013, 09:06 AM | #24 |
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It looks like Gecko45 finally landed a new job outfitting the Russian Military.
Perhaps Vladimir Putin went to one of our gun shows, bought the first AK he found as he walked in the door, and couldn't resist purchasing a different AK doo-dad from each table table he passed by. It's a good thing no one has told him about gunbroker yet. Shhhhhhhhhhh......http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=333281005 |
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Must be a better gun than this one, it's priced higher
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=339628905 or he could save his rubles and just get the AR grip - http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=328685381 |
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