H and R 10 gauge...

Beentown71 · December 7, 2009, 04:51 PM

Thought I would peek my head in here for some advice. I have a H and R 10 gauge that just sits in the safe. I picked it up with a bunch of others from a guy. Well, I have no use for it. It is in really great shape. Just one mark on the stock from another gun rubbing it. Any idea what I should ask for it? I like to shoot it but I have more "useful" shotguns.

Plus, there is a really nice rifle calling my name at the moment.

Thanks in advance,

Beentown

johnwilliamson062 · December 7, 2009, 04:55 PM

Worthless. I will pay you shipping to my door.
Sorry, no knowledge to be of any more help. Bet it kicks pretty hard.

bcarver · December 7, 2009, 05:10 PM

These sell around the south for 200 bucks new.
That reciever can be fitted to any rifle caliber by the factory.(i think)
Also a heavy 12 slug barrel.
Does it have a screw-in choke?

oneounceload · December 7, 2009, 05:13 PM

You might see if you can get one of the small-gauge reducers and drop it down to a 20 or 28 gauge.

Dragon55 · December 7, 2009, 05:21 PM

Are they both 10 ga?? Just noticed the top one has tan wood and a chopped off foregrip? Is it a 12? Is it a full choke? Is it also H & R?

Beentown71 · December 7, 2009, 05:29 PM

The top one was a ham...always trying to get in the picture. Actually I think that one is a Sears and Roebuck

It has a buldge in the last two inches of the barrel so it now hangs over my uncles loading bench.

Beentown

Beentown71 · December 7, 2009, 05:34 PM

Quote:

johnwilliamson062

Worthless. I will pay you shipping to my door.
Sorry, no knowledge to be of any more help. Bet it kicks pretty hard.

It is on its way

Actually, the kick is not bad. The gun is absolutely huge. It is so long and heavy that it helps tame the recoil. Full choke barrel...no tubes. Was going to use it for turkey this year.

I was thinking of putting it up on a local gunboard for $150. Sound fair? If I sell it I am dropping the rifle for now and buying my Dad his CCW class for Christmas.

Beentown

hogdogs · December 7, 2009, 05:42 PM

If I NEEDED a ten I would trade a 1977 336 Marlin .30-30 for it but I can't part with my deer rifle for a novelty thunder pipe...

One day I will own one but it will be make sweet love to a hack saw and get cut to legal and toted in a fringed leather holster

Brent

Beentown71 · December 7, 2009, 07:06 PM

Thought about that myself once or twice there hogdogs...

Beentown

rantingredneck · December 8, 2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogdogs

One day I will own one but it will be make sweet love to a hack saw and get cut to legal and toted in a fringed leather holster

Oh Hell Brent, Why not go all out and spring for the tax stamp. I'm thinking 9 inch barrel with a "mare's leg" type stock left behind.

Buy some 10 ga slugs and make sure you post video

.

hogdogs · December 8, 2009, 07:27 PM

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and make sure you post video

I will make sure to "aim" it real good too... Jist fer ya'...

Brent

Beentown71 · December 8, 2009, 07:58 PM

Think I am going to put it up on a local gunboard and ask $200 and accept $150.

Beentown

Beentown71 · December 8, 2009, 08:00 PM

Maybe not.

Beentown

Willie Lowman · December 8, 2009, 08:48 PM

That was a quick change of direction...

bamaranger · December 9, 2009, 06:08 AM

I see one now and then as a turkey gun. Seems like they made one w/ a slightly shorter (26?) bbl as well. The ones I've handled are suprisingly heavy.
For less weight and more versatility, a 3" 12 ga w/ all the advantages of modern shotshells, probably offers as much killing power/ range as the old 10 ga lead loads, w/ less recoil and a lighter, repeating firearm.

Now, a 10 ga slug, that is interesting.........

Laz · December 9, 2009, 10:46 AM

HR1871 still makes a ten gauge "Waterfowler" with 30" barrel and modified choke (fixed, I think, not sure).

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotg...dnerTurkey.asp (scroll down below the turkey guns)

johnwilliamson062 · December 9, 2009, 11:33 AM

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That reciever can be fitted to any rifle caliber by the factory.(i think)

Shotgun receivers can not accept rifle barrels. Maybe the 10 gauge can.
Ohh hog dogs...

WCW · December 9, 2009, 12:25 PM

I have an H&R model 147 10 gauge. I think it’s called a Sportsman long shot or something along that line. I would check but it’s buried at the very back of my gun safe at the moment. It has a 36 inch barrel and a full choke barrel with no choke tube. I used to use it for late season goose hunting when non toxic shot wasn’t required, and it was truly awesome for long shots on geese. I haven’t used it for a number of years, but have been thinking about getting some bismuth shot and reloading some of the hulls I have. It patterned beautifully with copper plated lead magnum BB shot, and I have been curious to see what it would do with a load of smaller shot for maybe turkey hunting. It’s a bit unwieldy due to the barrel length, but great for leading birds on the wing. Due to the weight it’s not all that bad for recoil either, but it is still a little stout. Anyone ever tried one of these on anything besides geese?

hogdogs · December 9, 2009, 12:42 PM

John, Here is the NEF info... I guess only rifle receivers can be fitted with shotgun barrels...
I may try to call them to determine if it is set in stone...

Quote:

Barrel Accessory Program

* Additional barrels may be added to firearms of our manufacture since 1987 only, with a serial number that begins with N or H. We do not install additional barrels on any other manufacturer’s firearms.
* Additional barrels are available as additional barrels only. We will not exchange barrels for existing barrels on shotguns and rifles, as it will change the model.
* Rifle frames may be fitted with additional rifle, shotgun, and muzzleloader barrels.
* Shotgun frames may be fitted with additional shotgun and muzzleloader barrels only.
* We do not sell additional barrels outright. All barrels must be factory fitted.
* We do not sell barrel blanks or do custom calibers.
* In order to obtain an additional barrel(s), the stock, forend and frame (receiver) must be sent to us so they may be properly hand-fitted to the barrel, to be sure they are correctly head-spaced and proof-tested.
* Hammer Spurs Sold Separately from Barrel

Brent

TxGun · December 9, 2009, 03:25 PM

I happened have a 2009 H&R catalog and the receiver type for the 10 gauge, and a couple of the 12 gauge Ultra-Slug Hunters, is published as SB2 (as opposed to SB1 for the other shotguns). The SB2 code indicates the same higher grade receiver that the centerfire rifles have. However, that doesn't necessarily mean they will fit extra rifle barrels, or any other barrels for that matter, to the 10 gauge frame. It may have some dimensional differences that preclude H&R from doing that.

marathonoil12 · December 11, 2009, 05:49 PM

10 ga's are good turkey guns if you dont mind haulin' the weight around.

I've got a 10ga Pardner that I "customized" into a turkey gun. Min has a much shorter barrel than the one you described though (18" or 20")
- red-dot scope
- textured grip and fore-end
- camo paint job
- Kick's Gobblin' Thunder choke tube
- Sim's Recoil Pad
It's definately a shoulder cannon, but it thumps on both ends

. I flat tracked a hen with an 8inch beard last spring @ 55yrds

December 7, 2009, 04:51 PM	#1
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	H and R 10 gauge... Thought I would peek my head in here for some advice. I have a H and R 10 gauge that just sits in the safe. I picked it up with a bunch of others from a guy. Well, I have no use for it. It is in really great shape. Just one mark on the stock from another gun rubbing it. Any idea what I should ask for it? I like to shoot it but I have more "useful" shotguns. Plus, there is a really nice rifle calling my name at the moment. Thanks in advance, Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

December 7, 2009, 05:10 PM	#3
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	200 These sell around the south for 200 bucks new. That reciever can be fitted to any rifle caliber by the factory.(i think) Also a heavy 12 slug barrel. Does it have a screw-in choke?

December 7, 2009, 05:21 PM	#5
Dragon55 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 811	Are they both 10 ga?? Just noticed the top one has tan wood and a chopped off foregrip? Is it a 12? Is it a full choke? Is it also H & R? __________________ sailing ... A way to spend lots of money and go real S L O W

December 7, 2009, 05:29 PM	#6
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	The top one was a ham...always trying to get in the picture. Actually I think that one is a Sears and Roebuck It has a buldge in the last two inches of the barrel so it now hangs over my uncles loading bench. Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

December 7, 2009, 07:06 PM	#9
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Thought about that myself once or twice there hogdogs... Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

December 7, 2009, 04:55 PM	#2
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Worthless. I will pay you shipping to my door. Sorry, no knowledge to be of any more help. Bet it kicks pretty hard.

December 7, 2009, 05:13 PM	#4
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	You might see if you can get one of the small-gauge reducers and drop it down to a 20 or 28 gauge.

December 7, 2009, 05:42 PM	#8
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	If I *NEEDED* a ten I would trade a 1977 336 Marlin .30-30 for it but I can't part with my deer rifle for a novelty thunder pipe... One day I will own one but it will be make sweet love to a hack saw and get cut to legal and toted in a fringed leather holster Brent

December 8, 2009, 07:58 PM	#12
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Think I am going to put it up on a local gunboard and ask $200 and accept $150. Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink Last edited by Beentown71; December 8, 2009 at 07:58 PM. Reason: Pairs pears

December 8, 2009, 08:00 PM	#13
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Maybe not. Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

December 8, 2009, 08:48 PM	#14
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	That was a quick change of direction...

December 9, 2009, 06:08 AM	#15
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,308	turkey gun I see one now and then as a turkey gun. Seems like they made one w/ a slightly shorter (26?) bbl as well. The ones I've handled are suprisingly heavy. For less weight and more versatility, a 3" 12 ga w/ all the advantages of modern shotshells, probably offers as much killing power/ range as the old 10 ga lead loads, w/ less recoil and a lighter, repeating firearm. Now, a 10 ga slug, that is interesting.........

December 9, 2009, 10:46 AM	#16
Laz Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Posts: 1,278	HR1871 still makes a ten gauge "Waterfowler" with 30" barrel and modified choke (fixed, I think, not sure). http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotg...dnerTurkey.asp (scroll down below the turkey guns) __________________ Laz I’m just a nobody, trying to tell everybody, about Somebody, who can save anybody.

December 9, 2009, 12:25 PM	#18
WCW Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2007 Posts: 132	I have an H&R model 147 10 gauge. I think it’s called a Sportsman long shot or something along that line. I would check but it’s buried at the very back of my gun safe at the moment. It has a 36 inch barrel and a full choke barrel with no choke tube. I used to use it for late season goose hunting when non toxic shot wasn’t required, and it was truly awesome for long shots on geese. I haven’t used it for a number of years, but have been thinking about getting some bismuth shot and reloading some of the hulls I have. It patterned beautifully with copper plated lead magnum BB shot, and I have been curious to see what it would do with a load of smaller shot for maybe turkey hunting. It’s a bit unwieldy due to the barrel length, but great for leading birds on the wing. Due to the weight it’s not all that bad for recoil either, but it is still a little stout. Anyone ever tried one of these on anything besides geese?

December 9, 2009, 03:25 PM	#20
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	I happened have a 2009 H&R catalog and the receiver type for the 10 gauge, and a couple of the 12 gauge Ultra-Slug Hunters, is published as SB2 (as opposed to SB1 for the other shotguns). The SB2 code indicates the same higher grade receiver that the centerfire rifles have. However, that doesn't necessarily mean they will fit extra rifle barrels, or any other barrels for that matter, to the 10 gauge frame. It may have some dimensional differences that preclude H&R from doing that.

December 11, 2009, 05:49 PM	#21
marathonoil12 Junior Member Join Date: November 9, 2009 Posts: 10	10 ga's are good turkey guns if you dont mind haulin' the weight around. I've got a 10ga Pardner that I "customized" into a turkey gun. Min has a much shorter barrel than the one you described though (18" or 20") - red-dot scope - textured grip and fore-end - camo paint job - Kick's Gobblin' Thunder choke tube - Sim's Recoil Pad It's definately a shoulder cannon, but it thumps on both ends. I flat tracked a hen with an 8inch beard last spring @ 55yrds Last edited by marathonoil12; December 11, 2009 at 06:00 PM.