Can you identify these head stamps?

DaMan · September 10, 2000, 10:55 AM

While sorting out 9mm cases, I came accross these wierdos!

1. A-MERC 9MM
2. MRP 9mm LUGER
3. CBC 9mm
4. G.F.L 86 (w/NATO cross)
5. DFA NT 9mm LUGER
6. 9X19 C J 93 (letters C&J are on opposite sides of the primer)
7. LE 9mm LUGER
8. 9x19 L Y 92 (letters L&Y on opposite sides of primer
9. MAL 9MM 7-85
10. 9mm PARA 93 w/triangle
11. 9mm-LUGER S B (not S&B, but S B)
12. HP GEND. 87
13. DAG 9x19 Gend 89
14. NIC 88 9mm (w/triangle)
15. IVI 9mm LUGER (I know this is the Canadian ammo maker but don't recall their name or location)
16. E L D 9MM
17. I've come accross Speer and FC cases that have the letters "NT". Any ideas what this stands for?

BTW, all of these are boxer primed.

Regards! DaMan

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johnwill · September 10, 2000, 11:09 AM

Well, the GFL is easy, it's Fiocchi's headstamp.
MRP is MagTech's headstamp.

Don't know the rest off-hand.

DaMan · September 10, 2000, 11:32 AM

johnwill, GFL Giuseppi Fiochi Ltd.? With the Nato cross must be Italian military cases.

I've also seen MagTech use cases marked "CBC". Any idea who make these cases?

Regards! DaMan

pack_rat · September 10, 2000, 01:22 PM

CBC= Companhia Brasiera de Cartuchos, Brazil
G.F.L.= Giulio Fiocci, Lecco, Italy
HP= Hirtenberger Patronen, Austria
(Gend.= Gendarmerie, police load)?
IVI= Industries Valcartier, Inc., Canada
MAL= Malaysia
NT= Non Toxic, designed for indoor ranges?
SB= former Sellier & Bellot firm at
Schoenbeck/Elbe, Germany
SB= Sellier & Bellot plant, Prague, Czechoslovakia
SB= Palencia plant of Empresa Nacional
de Santa Barbara, Spain

The search continues,
p_r

DaMan · September 10, 2000, 02:18 PM

Good work, PackRat!

The search continues!

There was some company I bumped into on the internet that offers CDs that identify every type of small arms ammo in the world. But the price was outrageous!

Regards! DaMan

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Steve Smith · September 10, 2000, 11:57 PM

A-MERC = Sucks
Oh! I'm sorry, it means American Ammunition. Their cases are way too thick to handle spec bullets...toss 'em.

johnwill · September 11, 2000, 05:51 PM

I don't know about the CBC, I just checked the headstamps on the ammo in my closet.

I don't normally sort handgun ammo, of course I mostly load .45ACP.

kjm · September 12, 2000, 12:21 AM

ELD= Eldorado, my favorite .357 magnum ammo!

**Mal H** · September 12, 2000, 01:03 AM

Here ya go, if you can't find your headstamp on the list below, it's probably handmade! BTW, CBC is Brazilian Cartridge Company.
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September 10, 2000, 10:55 AM	#1
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2000 Posts: 222	While sorting out 9mm cases, I came accross these wierdos! 1. A-MERC 9MM 2. MRP 9mm LUGER 3. CBC 9mm 4. G.F.L 86 (w/NATO cross) 5. DFA NT 9mm LUGER 6. 9X19 C J 93 (letters C&J are on opposite sides of the primer) 7. LE 9mm LUGER 8. 9x19 L Y 92 (letters L&Y on opposite sides of primer 9. MAL 9MM 7-85 10. 9mm PARA 93 w/triangle 11. 9mm-LUGER S B (not S&B, but S B) 12. HP GEND. 87 13. DAG 9x19 Gend 89 14. NIC 88 9mm (w/triangle) 15. IVI 9mm LUGER (I know this is the Canadian ammo maker but don't recall their name or location) 16. E L D 9MM 17. I've come accross Speer and FC cases that have the letters "NT". Any ideas what this stands for? BTW, all of these are boxer primed. Regards! DaMan [This message has been edited by DaMan (edited September 10, 2000).]

September 10, 2000, 11:09 AM	#2
johnwill Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,451	Well, the GFL is easy, it's Fiocchi's headstamp. MRP is MagTech's headstamp. Don't know the rest off-hand.

September 10, 2000, 11:32 AM	#3
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2000 Posts: 222	johnwill, GFL Giuseppi Fiochi Ltd.? With the Nato cross must be Italian military cases. I've also seen MagTech use cases marked "CBC". Any idea who make these cases? Regards! DaMan

September 10, 2000, 01:22 PM	#4
pack_rat Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2000 Location: AL50 Posts: 156	CBC= Companhia Brasiera de Cartuchos, Brazil G.F.L.= Giulio Fiocci, Lecco, Italy HP= Hirtenberger Patronen, Austria (Gend.= Gendarmerie, police load)? IVI= Industries Valcartier, Inc., Canada MAL= Malaysia NT= Non Toxic, designed for indoor ranges? SB= former Sellier & Bellot firm at Schoenbeck/Elbe, Germany SB= Sellier & Bellot plant, Prague, Czechoslovakia SB= Palencia plant of Empresa Nacional de Santa Barbara, Spain The search continues, p_r

September 10, 2000, 02:18 PM	#5
DaMan Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2000 Posts: 222	Good work, PackRat! The search continues! There was some company I bumped into on the internet that offers CDs that identify every type of small arms ammo in the world. But the price was outrageous! Regards! DaMan [This message has been edited by DaMan (edited September 10, 2000).]

September 10, 2000, 11:57 PM	#6
Steve Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1999 Posts: 4,131	A-MERC = Sucks Oh! I'm sorry, it means American Ammunition. Their cases are way too thick to handle spec bullets...toss 'em.

September 11, 2000, 05:51 PM	#7
johnwill Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2000 Location: PA Posts: 3,451	I don't know about the CBC, I just checked the headstamps on the ammo in my closet. I don't normally sort handgun ammo, of course I mostly load .45ACP.

September 12, 2000, 12:21 AM	#8
kjm Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 1,871	ELD= Eldorado, my favorite .357 magnum ammo!

September 12, 2000, 01:03 AM	#9
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,949	Here ya go, if you can't find your headstamp on the list below, it's probably handmade! BTW, CBC is Brazilian Cartridge Company. [Link no longer valid]