64-8 Counter Bored.

deerslayer303 · April 19, 2018, 08:07 AM

Hello Everyone,
I have the opportunity to buy this 64-8 but the thing looks to be counter bored? I don't recall my Model 10 heavy barrel's muzzle looking like this. Have any of you ever seen a counter bored Revolver?

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gwpercle · April 19, 2018, 07:15 PM

My model 64 doesn't look like that either.
I have seen counterbored crowns done on NRA Bullseye Target revolvers.
Typically a heavy barrel , slab sided , 38 special and this crown was supposed to be for accuracy or by being recessed was less likely to be damaged.
If the gun checks out it wouldn't stop me from buying it...but only if I could put me eyeballs and hands on it . Who knows it might be a target grade shooter.
Gary

arquebus357 · April 20, 2018, 06:25 AM

I had one like that so I did this.

gwpercle · April 20, 2018, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by arquebus357

I had one like that so I did this.

And took care of that pesky front sight too !

DPris · April 20, 2018, 02:41 PM

That's a two-piece barrel.
Just the way it was made.

If you try to cut it off at the end, as Arq did, there will be nothing to retain what's left of the barrel tube.
Denis

arquebus357 · April 21, 2018, 11:54 PM

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And took care of that pesky front sight too

Front sights ? We don't need no stinking front sights.

deerslayer303 · April 23, 2018, 08:27 PM

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That's a two-piece barrel.
Just the way it was made.

So, it basically has a barrel liner? When did they start this? Or is this the way they built the ones with the internal lock?

DPris · April 23, 2018, 09:52 PM

The 64 & 67 had the two-piece barrels for a few years recently, and then S&W returned to one-piecers.

Your 64 has the two-piecer.
It consists of an internal narrower barrel tube threaded into the frame.
The outside is a MIM shroud that fits into the frame around the barrel.
The front end is a large flange at the end of the actual barrel tube that holds the shroud onto the gun.

Think of the outer shroud as being a long hollow section.
Think of the barrel as being a flange at one end & threads at the other.

The shroud is placed into the frame, the barrel tube is inserted into the front end & screwed into the frame at the back end.
Tightened up with a wrench that goes inside the barrel & grabs the rifling.
Denis

deerslayer303 · April 24, 2018, 07:25 PM

Thank you for that explanation Denis. That makes sense.

DPris · April 24, 2018, 07:47 PM

You're welcome.
They use the two-piece barrel to save money.
The guns usually shoot OK.
Denis

Model12Win · April 24, 2018, 07:54 PM

The 64s are solid guns. Sights are too small and underpowered compared to the .357s, but they do well as kit guns and for small game getting.

April 19, 2018, 08:07 AM	#1
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,653	64-8 Counter Bored. Hello Everyone, I have the opportunity to buy this 64-8 but the thing looks to be counter bored? I don't recall my Model 10 heavy barrel's muzzle looking like this. Have any of you ever seen a counter bored Revolver? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

April 24, 2018, 07:25 PM	#9
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: Leesville SC Posts: 2,653	Thank you for that explanation Denis. That makes sense. __________________ "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson

April 19, 2018, 07:15 PM	#2
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,752	My model 64 doesn't look like that either. I have seen counterbored crowns done on NRA Bullseye Target revolvers. Typically a heavy barrel , slab sided , 38 special and this crown was supposed to be for accuracy or by being recessed was less likely to be damaged. If the gun checks out it wouldn't stop me from buying it...but only if I could put me eyeballs and hands on it . Who knows it might be a target grade shooter. Gary

April 20, 2018, 06:25 AM	#3
arquebus357 Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2016 Location: Atlanta, Georgia area Posts: 455	I had one like that so I did this.

April 20, 2018, 02:41 PM	#5
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	That's a two-piece barrel. Just the way it was made. If you try to cut it off at the end, as Arq did, there will be nothing to retain what's left of the barrel tube. Denis

April 23, 2018, 09:52 PM	#8
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	The 64 & 67 had the two-piece barrels for a few years recently, and then S&W returned to one-piecers. Your 64 has the two-piecer. It consists of an internal narrower barrel tube threaded into the frame. The outside is a MIM shroud that fits into the frame around the barrel. The front end is a large flange at the end of the actual barrel tube that holds the shroud onto the gun. Think of the outer shroud as being a long hollow section. Think of the barrel as being a flange at one end & threads at the other. The shroud is placed into the frame, the barrel tube is inserted into the front end & screwed into the frame at the back end. Tightened up with a wrench that goes inside the barrel & grabs the rifling. Denis

April 24, 2018, 07:47 PM	#10
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	You're welcome. They use the two-piece barrel to save money. The guns usually shoot OK. Denis

April 24, 2018, 07:54 PM	#11
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	The 64s are solid guns. Sights are too small and underpowered compared to the .357s, but they do well as kit guns and for small game getting.