Uberti 1858 Revolving Carbine

TomsFAL · September 8, 2007, 06:52 PM

Hi Fellow Shooters
I am looking to buy a Uberti 1858 Revolving Carbine

And I would like to know where to buy one.?
It seems to me one of threads had listed that a gun shop looked over
the guns and sent back worst ones. Any way any help would be great
Thanks Tom

[email protected]

mykeal · September 8, 2007, 08:34 PM

Cimarron Firearms offers Uberti products in the manner you described.
Here's the link to the gun you want:
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Blk...-58RemCarb.htm

bosipipes · September 9, 2007, 06:15 PM

Cabels also sells them
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...817&id=0006192

As does Dixie works

Hawg · September 9, 2007, 06:41 PM

The Cabela's is made by Pietta. But Pietta quality is as good as Uberti these days. If you want one that's been gone over and is marked closer to the original then by all means go with Cimarron but if a good quality shooter for a good price is what you want go with Cabela's.

w_houle · September 9, 2007, 07:12 PM

I know it will come out to be a little costlier, but what about buying This

Hawg · September 9, 2007, 07:37 PM

The carbine has an 18 inch barrel. If anybody gets one of these keep your off hand off the barrel when you fire. Keep it behind the cylinder.

mykeal · September 9, 2007, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Cabels also sells them
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...817&id=0006192

As does Dixie works

TomsFAL asked for the shop that looked over the guns and sent back the worst ones. Cimarron sells Uberti and 'cherry picks' the ones they sell. Cabela's and Dixie Gun Works do not "cherry pick" their guns. And Hawg Haggen is correct, Cabela's gun is a Pietta, not a Uberti.

Molasses · September 10, 2007, 05:48 PM

Okay, this is OT from the OP, but I felt it needed to be addressed in the interest of giving straight scoop.

Quote:

And Hawg Haggen is correct, Cabela's gun is a Pietta, not a Uberti.

For C&B revolvers, I think Cabela's and Pietta is correct.

Can't speak for what Cabela's sells for revolving carbines NOW. 6-8 years ago, Cabela's revolving carbines were definitely from Uberti. I've got the revolving Remmie C&B carbine and a screwy .44-40 Model P-based carbine (not a Buntline w. removable stock) thing that both came from Cabela's (in the case of the cartridge gun, right off the rack at the Owatonna, MN store; only one I've seen with Cabela's markings and priced at a nifty $175-clearanced?) and both say A. Uberti on the underside of the barrel...

Hawg · September 10, 2007, 06:18 PM

Usually if a Cabela's gun is Uberti the add says so, as in their pocket pistols. I know the guns I have bought from them have been Piettas. I'm just assuming that since the add doesn't say they're made by Uberti they're Pietta. I could be wrong tho.

Old Dragoon · September 10, 2007, 08:51 PM

FYI Uberti is the only MFG of the Remy revolving carbine. And that Peacemaker cattleman carbine as well.

Hawg · September 10, 2007, 09:25 PM

That's good to know. Wonder why Cabela's doesn't advertise them as Uberti like they do the pocket pistols?

TomsFAL · September 13, 2007, 02:13 AM

Thanks
Fellow Shooters
I got mine from Texas Jacks http://texasjacks.com/Home.htm
They were very nice

I also got the Converter Cyl. 1858 Army .44 Colt
Hope it will work on the Carbine?? If not I Have 1858 Remington Army
.44 8" Too

1. What do the experts here on The Fire Line think about the Converter Cyl used on the carbine?

2. I have a box of Black Hills Ammo .44 Colt Cowboy smokeless Powders
Is this safe to use in these 2 Black Powder Guns

Thanks for any Help
Tom

Shotgun Willy · September 13, 2007, 03:20 AM

R&D's website lists Black Hills Smokeless and Black Dawg Black Powder Cowboy loads as the preferred shells for their conversion cylinders. Unfortunately I haven't found any around here for mine and am wondering about the 45 LC Cowboy loads from Winchester. Anybody know? Not that I'm giving up looking for the preferred ones.

Old Dragoon · September 13, 2007, 08:22 AM

I'm afraid that the 44 Colt Cylinder is for 44 Colt heeled bullets and not the 44 colt of opentop fame. that shoots a .429 bullet and your bore is .451 nom. Your ammo , the lead will fall through the bore and not be accurate.

I had a revolving carbine with that exact cylinder. I ordered it that way because I shoot the 44 Colt heeled bullet.

If you don't reload your own, I'd try to get a 45Lc cylinder instead. If you do reload, then Old West Moulds has your 44 Colt/Remington heeled bullets.
He doesn't have a website, but you can reach Bernie here: [email protected]

Bernie will treat you right.

Shotgun Willy,
Any Cowboy load 45LC will work fine in the R &D and the Kirst Conversions. I used Winchester Cowboy loads in mine with great resulkts. I reload so even reloads at the proper FPS will work.

Shotgun willy,
ANY 45LC Cowboy Load will work in the R & D and the Kirst Conversions. Just keep it to 700-850 FPS.
I used the Winchester and they are fine.

TomsFAL · September 13, 2007, 08:56 PM

Hi old Dragoon

The rifle has .44 on the barrel and I ordered a .44 colt R&D Cylinder.
and a box of Black Hills .44Colt

So I need to get a .45 Long Colt Converter Cylinder and Ammo.
Will this also work in my 1858 Remington Army 8" .44 ?

Thanks Tom

Old Dragoon · September 13, 2007, 09:12 PM

Heres the scoop. All 44 Cap and Ball Revolvers are .451 nom. bore(grooves). 44 Colt is .429 Grooves. .451 is really 45 Cal. so the 45lc is the R & D cylinder you want, not the Colt 44, unless you want to load the bullets I use. they are .451 drive bands(outside lube grooves between the drive bands), the heel is .429 it fit inside 44 Colt brass.

If your 85 Remy is Uberti the Uberti R & D conversion cylinder will fit both.

I modified a Pietta Kirst conversion cylinder to fit my Uberti Revolving carbine and it worked, but I had to take.018 off the face of the cylinder to fit the Uberti, but then it fit all my Uberti's and my Euroarms '58's. It would still fit the Pietta, but it was .018 Short because of my facing off the cylinder.

Shotgun Willy · September 13, 2007, 10:54 PM

Thanks O.D., I expected they'd work but since I've no experience with conversion cylinders I thought I'd be cautious and ask.
Bill

TomsFAL · September 14, 2007, 01:11 AM

Thanks O.D., I've no experience

Tom

mickey66 · September 23, 2007, 12:47 PM

Cabela's sells Pietta products,best prices on the web....If you want Uberti...go to Taylors...good price, great service. I'm new here so....Hi all.

PS: Midway has good prices on R & D cylinders...I just got a .44 cal cylinder for my Remy....a Remy 44 cylinder conversion from Midway is a conversion to cal .45 Long Colt....price(on sale now BTW)is $239.00 + shipping....you may buy one conversion cylinder and then use the back plate from that cylinder on other cylinders so....that means if you want more than one cylinder you can just buy the cylinder by its self(you will have to call them to do this)....a savings of about $100 on each cylinder. Hope this helps.

September 8, 2007, 06:52 PM	#1
TomsFAL Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2007 Posts: 13	Uberti 1858 Revolving Carbine Hi Fellow Shooters I am looking to buy a Uberti 1858 Revolving Carbine And I would like to know where to buy one.? It seems to me one of threads had listed that a gun shop looked over the guns and sent back worst ones. Any way any help would be great Thanks Tom [email protected]

September 9, 2007, 07:12 PM	#5
w_houle Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,391	I know it will come out to be a little costlier, but what about buying This __________________ How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished?

September 13, 2007, 02:13 AM	#12
TomsFAL Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2007 Posts: 13	1858 Remington Army Revolving Carbine 18" Thanks Fellow Shooters I got mine from Texas Jacks http://texasjacks.com/Home.htm They were very nice I also got the Converter Cyl. 1858 Army .44 Colt Hope it will work on the Carbine?? If not I Have 1858 Remington Army .44 8" Too 1. What do the experts here on The Fire Line think about the Converter Cyl used on the carbine? 2. I have a box of Black Hills Ammo .44 Colt Cowboy smokeless Powders Is this safe to use in these 2 Black Powder Guns Thanks for any Help Tom

September 13, 2007, 03:20 AM	#13
Shotgun Willy Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Territory Posts: 98	Conversion Cylinder R&D's website lists Black Hills Smokeless and Black Dawg Black Powder Cowboy loads as the preferred shells for their conversion cylinders. Unfortunately I haven't found any around here for mine and am wondering about the 45 LC Cowboy loads from Winchester. Anybody know? Not that I'm giving up looking for the preferred ones.

September 13, 2007, 10:54 PM	#17
Shotgun Willy Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Territory Posts: 98	Old Dragoon Thanks O.D., I expected they'd work but since I've no experience with conversion cylinders I thought I'd be cautious and ask. Bill

September 8, 2007, 08:34 PM	#2
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Cimarron Firearms offers Uberti products in the manner you described. Here's the link to the gun you want: http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Blk...-58RemCarb.htm

September 9, 2007, 06:15 PM	#3
bosipipes Junior Member Join Date: August 7, 2007 Posts: 12	Cabels also sells them http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...817&id=0006192 As does Dixie works

September 9, 2007, 06:41 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	The Cabela's is made by Pietta. But Pietta quality is as good as Uberti these days. If you want one that's been gone over and is marked closer to the original then by all means go with Cimarron but if a good quality shooter for a good price is what you want go with Cabela's.

September 9, 2007, 07:37 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	The carbine has an 18 inch barrel. If anybody gets one of these keep your off hand off the barrel when you fire. Keep it behind the cylinder.

September 10, 2007, 06:18 PM	#9
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Usually if a Cabela's gun is Uberti the add says so, as in their pocket pistols. I know the guns I have bought from them have been Piettas. I'm just assuming that since the add doesn't say they're made by Uberti they're Pietta. I could be wrong tho.

September 10, 2007, 08:51 PM	#10
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	FYI Uberti is the only MFG of the Remy revolving carbine. And that Peacemaker cattleman carbine as well.

September 10, 2007, 09:25 PM	#11
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	That's good to know. Wonder why Cabela's doesn't advertise them as Uberti like they do the pocket pistols?

September 13, 2007, 08:22 AM	#14
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	I'm afraid that the 44 Colt Cylinder is for 44 Colt heeled bullets and not the 44 colt of opentop fame. that shoots a .429 bullet and your bore is .451 nom. Your ammo , the lead will fall through the bore and not be accurate. I had a revolving carbine with that exact cylinder. I ordered it that way because I shoot the 44 Colt heeled bullet. If you don't reload your own, I'd try to get a 45Lc cylinder instead. If you do reload, then Old West Moulds has your 44 Colt/Remington heeled bullets. He doesn't have a website, but you can reach Bernie here: [email protected] Bernie will treat you right. Shotgun Willy, Any Cowboy load 45LC will work fine in the R &D and the Kirst Conversions. I used Winchester Cowboy loads in mine with great resulkts. I reload so even reloads at the proper FPS will work. Shotgun willy, ANY 45LC Cowboy Load will work in the R & D and the Kirst Conversions. Just keep it to 700-850 FPS. I used the Winchester and they are fine.

September 13, 2007, 08:56 PM	#15
TomsFAL Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2007 Posts: 13	Hi old Dragoon The rifle has .44 on the barrel and I ordered a .44 colt R&D Cylinder. and a box of Black Hills .44Colt So I need to get a .45 Long Colt Converter Cylinder and Ammo. Will this also work in my 1858 Remington Army 8" .44 ? Thanks Tom

September 13, 2007, 09:12 PM	#16
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	Heres the scoop. All 44 Cap and Ball Revolvers are .451 nom. bore(grooves). 44 Colt is .429 Grooves. .451 is really 45 Cal. so the 45lc is the R & D cylinder you want, not the Colt 44, unless you want to load the bullets I use. they are .451 drive bands(outside lube grooves between the drive bands), the heel is .429 it fit inside 44 Colt brass. If your 85 Remy is Uberti the Uberti R & D conversion cylinder will fit both. I modified a Pietta Kirst conversion cylinder to fit my Uberti Revolving carbine and it worked, but I had to take.018 off the face of the cylinder to fit the Uberti, but then it fit all my Uberti's and my Euroarms '58's. It would still fit the Pietta, but it was .018 Short because of my facing off the cylinder.

September 14, 2007, 01:11 AM	#18
TomsFAL Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2007 Posts: 13	Thanks O.D., I've no experience Tom

September 23, 2007, 12:47 PM	#19
mickey66 Junior Member Join Date: September 23, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 2	Cabela's sells Pietta products,best prices on the web....If you want Uberti...go to Taylors...good price, great service. I'm new here so....Hi all. PS: Midway has good prices on R & D cylinders...I just got a .44 cal cylinder for my Remy....a Remy 44 cylinder conversion from Midway is a conversion to cal .45 Long Colt....price(on sale now BTW)is $239.00 + shipping....you may buy one conversion cylinder and then use the back plate from that cylinder on other cylinders so....that means if you want more than one cylinder you can just buy the cylinder by its self(you will have to call them to do this)....a savings of about $100 on each cylinder. Hope this helps. __________________ Mickey