Pediatrics: 1300 children a year killed by guns - Page 2

ShootistPRS · June 23, 2017, 01:29 PM

Well, I did glance at the article and when I noted the line that said no new data was used, I very rapidly dismissed it.

Last year, according to the statistics I searched there were two children listed as dying from gunshot wounds in father/son murder suicide. One in March and the other in April. It was the same people listed in both incidents. So to correct the number of children who died last year in Washington it was only 1.
The same 1300 value was used by a democratic representative to push a new anti gun law through congress and on to the governor's desk. Getting information from the CDC and other political references is as accurate as they want to get.
I would like to see their incidents broken down by state so it could be better scrutinized.

You can find a good argument against the CDC "findings" here.

**44 AMP** · June 23, 2017, 06:57 PM

THanks for the link, BarryLee.

I found where he said 93 million, and then later corrected himself, he "meant" to say 93 a day, not 93 million.

I do, however, now wonder, this guy, who confuses 93 with 93 million is the guy who signs the state budget. Makes me wonder where the tax money of the people of Virginia is really going???

rc · July 15, 2017, 12:31 AM

I believe drowning happen at a much greater frequency, but forcing people to put up fences around their pretty blue pools is not popular like forcing people to lock up their guns.

dajowi · July 17, 2017, 03:05 PM

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as a human being below the age of 18 years. PERIOD!

**44 AMP** · July 17, 2017, 03:09 PM

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The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as a human being below the age of 18 years. PERIOD!

Which appears to have absolutely no effect on the headlines and statistics produced by the gun grabbers, and parroted verbatim by the news media, without any kind of fact checking...or the desire to do so...

FAS1 · July 17, 2017, 07:02 PM

From the article and what most of the statistics never point out:

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Older children (aged 13–17 years) had a rate of fatal firearm injury that was more than 12 times higher than the rate for younger children (aged 0–12 years): 5.1 per 100 000 vs 0.4

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Firearm homicides of older children were significantly more likely to be precipitated by another crime, to be gang-related, to have drug involvement, and/or to involve weapon use also on the part of the victim.

We are doing a pretty good job keeping toddler and children safe from accidental shootings when the number of deaths are around 60 per year. Obviously we could always do better, but it is by no means at high levels.

Dufus · July 18, 2017, 11:39 PM

According to the article 1300 kids died in gun related accidents.

I wonder how many more were killed in alcohol related accidents??

The numbers that I see are astounding, but the "press" doesn't seem to care.

Shenna9220 · July 19, 2017, 07:51 AM

But so many more from drug overdoses that it is projected that upwards of 100,000 will die in 2017 of which 1/3 or more will be under the age of 19.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...than-ever.html

The city of Bradenton Florida had to rent a refrigerated wharehouse to house the overflow from the morge. This is not a self correcting problem.

RickB · July 21, 2017, 10:24 AM

I'm sure pediatricians kill more than 1300 kids a year?

More than twice as many people are killed by doctors each year, as are killed "by" guns.

June 23, 2017, 06:57 PM	#27
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,846	THanks for the link, BarryLee. I found where he said 93 million, and then later corrected himself, he "meant" to say 93 a day, not 93 million. I do, however, now wonder, this guy, who confuses 93 with 93 million is the guy who signs the state budget. Makes me wonder where the tax money of the people of Virginia is really going??? __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

July 15, 2017, 12:31 AM	#28
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,769	I believe Drownings are greater I believe drowning happen at a much greater frequency, but forcing people to put up fences around their pretty blue pools is not popular like forcing people to lock up their guns.

July 21, 2017, 10:24 AM	#34
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I'm sure pediatricians kill more than 1300 kids a year? More than twice as many people are killed by doctors each year, as are killed "by" guns. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

June 23, 2017, 01:29 PM	#26
ShootistPRS Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2017 Posts: 1,583	Well, I did glance at the article and when I noted the line that said no new data was used, I very rapidly dismissed it. Last year, according to the statistics I searched there were two children listed as dying from gunshot wounds in father/son murder suicide. One in March and the other in April. It was the same people listed in both incidents. So to correct the number of children who died last year in Washington it was only 1. The same 1300 value was used by a democratic representative to push a new anti gun law through congress and on to the governor's desk. Getting information from the CDC and other political references is as accurate as they want to get. I would like to see their incidents broken down by state so it could be better scrutinized. You can find a good argument against the CDC "findings" here.

July 17, 2017, 03:05 PM	#29
dajowi Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 1,196	The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines child as a human being below the age of 18 years. PERIOD!

July 18, 2017, 11:39 PM	#32
Dufus Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2014 Posts: 1,965	According to the article 1300 kids died in gun related accidents. I wonder how many more were killed in alcohol related accidents?? The numbers that I see are astounding, but the "press" doesn't seem to care.

July 19, 2017, 07:51 AM	#33
Shenna9220 Member Join Date: January 31, 2016 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl Posts: 78	But so many more from drug overdoses that it is projected that upwards of 100,000 will die in 2017 of which 1/3 or more will be under the age of 19. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...than-ever.html The city of Bradenton Florida had to rent a refrigerated wharehouse to house the overflow from the morge. This is not a self correcting problem.