California and Nightvision scopes

ava8harrierusmc1 · February 1, 2010, 01:13 AM

Ok I live in California and I have a problem First of all I own a lot of firepower but I'm still not happy I want more. Next I want to leave it all to my friends son's since i can't have kids. But i want to leave each kid a AR-15 and other firearms I'm almost there just need a couple more. But in CALIFORNIA it's illegal to own what they call a SNIPER SCOPE now i need to know if I was to get a MULTI-TASK scope would or could that be considered a sniper scope the reason why i ask is because i'd like to get each D-740 Generation 2+ Mil. Spec. Advanced Rifle Scope but i know that i'll have trouble with the law if we are pulled over and they ask us to open the trunk so to be legal I'm thinking a GEN III MULTI-TASK Scope this way it FITS INTO THE RANGE OF THE LAW THAT IS LISTED BELOW. Any assistance would be helpful.
I do plane on using them for more than hunting when we go to NV I own a couple of GEN I's but they are wearing out so i need to replace them.

:barf:
Sniperscopes
A sniperscope is defined as a device made or adapted for use on a firearm that enables the operator
to detect objects during nighttime through the use of a projected infrared light source and
electronic telescope. (Penal Code § 468.)
Any person who buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or possesses a sniperscope is guilty of
a misdemeanor. This prohibition does not apply to authorized use or possession of sniperscopes by
members of the armed forces or peace officers, and does not prohibit use or possession solely for
scientific research or educational purposes. (Penal Code § 4

Tucker 1371 · February 1, 2010, 01:55 AM

Sniper Scope?? :barf:

Garbage.

I don't see how gun owners in Cali do it. I couldn't put up with that nonsense.

Just judging it by the way BATFE operates I would assume that Cali law considers even Multi Task scopes to be "Sniper Scopes" :barf:, if they still have the ability to allow the user to make accurate shots at night then I'm sure some Cali politician will **** a brick over you having one.

But on the other hand if you don't mind being out a few grand (

) it's only a misdemeanor. Not like they'll raid your house and confiscate your guns for that.

Brian Pfleuger · February 1, 2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

A sniperscope is defined as a device made or adapted for use on a firearm that enables the operator to detect objects during nighttime through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope. (Penal Code § 468.)

If the above quoted statute is correct then it doesn't matter what you call it.

If it is a night-vision scope that projects an infrared beam then it's illegal.

Calling such a scope a "sniper scope" is ridiculous and a clear indication of the ignorance of the ones who write the laws. Still, it doesn't change the legality.

bob.a · February 1, 2010, 04:30 PM

Unless there's more to the law about so-called sniper scopes, sounds like you could get a modern night-vision scope, which works off ambient light and doesn't require an infrared light source. They're not cheap, and you can't export the more recent models, not that that's a problem for you.

**4V50 Gary** · February 8, 2010, 05:43 PM

My reading of it is that Calif. has a restriction against infra-red sights, not passive night vision. If so, it's dated and let's not stir the embers, OK?

fastforty · February 8, 2010, 06:12 PM

You might have to get your friend's sons to move to another state in order to legally take possession of the AR's. Last I heard, you cannot buy or transfer them within the state. One of the subsections of the ban provides for transfer to your own child if that child's name was put on the registration form at the time the firearm was purchased. There may have been a change or reinterpretation since "last I heard" though.

February 1, 2010, 01:13 AM	#1
ava8harrierusmc1 Member Join Date: May 18, 2009 Location: Rocklin CA Posts: 15	California and Nightvision scopes Ok I live in California and I have a problem First of all I own a lot of firepower but I'm still not happy I want more. Next I want to leave it all to my friends son's since i can't have kids. But i want to leave each kid a AR-15 and other firearms I'm almost there just need a couple more. But in CALIFORNIA it's illegal to own what they call a SNIPER SCOPE now i need to know if I was to get a MULTI-TASK scope would or could that be considered a sniper scope the reason why i ask is because i'd like to get each D-740 Generation 2+ Mil. Spec. Advanced Rifle Scope but i know that i'll have trouble with the law if we are pulled over and they ask us to open the trunk so to be legal I'm thinking a GEN III MULTI-TASK Scope this way it FITS INTO THE RANGE OF THE LAW THAT IS LISTED BELOW. Any assistance would be helpful. I do plane on using them for more than hunting when we go to NV I own a couple of GEN I's but they are wearing out so i need to replace them. :barf: Sniperscopes A sniperscope is defined as a device made or adapted for use on a firearm that enables the operator to detect objects during nighttime through the use of a projected infrared light source and electronic telescope. (Penal Code § 468.) Any person who buys, sells, receives, disposes of, conceals, or possesses a sniperscope is guilty of a misdemeanor. This prohibition does not apply to authorized use or possession of sniperscopes by members of the armed forces or peace officers, and does not prohibit use or possession solely for scientific research or educational purposes. (Penal Code § 4 __________________ Life is just to short to be upset by the little things in life. So if something big happens and you don't like it just wait hopefully in the end they will get it in the end if you know what I mean!

February 1, 2010, 01:55 AM	#2
Tucker 1371 Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 2,649	Sniper Scope?? :barf: Garbage. I don't see how gun owners in Cali do it. I couldn't put up with that nonsense. Just judging it by the way BATFE operates I would assume that Cali law considers even Multi Task scopes to be "Sniper Scopes" :barf:, if they still have the ability to allow the user to make accurate shots at night then I'm sure some Cali politician will ** a brick over you having one. But on the other hand if you don't mind being out a few grand () it's only a misdemeanor. Not like they'll raid your house and confiscate your guns for that. __________________ Sgt. of Marines, 5th Award Expert Rifle, 237/250 Expert Pistol, 382/400. D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! If you start a thread, be active in it. Don't leave us hanging. OEF 2011 Sangin, Afg. Molon Labe**

February 8, 2010, 05:43 PM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	My reading of it is that Calif. has a restriction against infra-red sights, not passive night vision. If so, it's dated and let's not stir the embers, OK? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 8, 2010, 06:12 PM	#6
fastforty Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1999 Location: In a kornfield in kalifornia Posts: 1,161	You might have to get your friend's sons to move to another state in order to legally take possession of the AR's. Last I heard, you cannot buy or transfer them within the state. One of the subsections of the ban provides for transfer to your own child if that child's name was put on the registration form at the time the firearm was purchased. There may have been a change or reinterpretation since "last I heard" though. __________________ When Banjos are outlawed, only Outlaws will have Banjos The Bible is my lawbook. I turn the other cheek when applicable, and spend the rest of my days resisting evil at every front, until I have breathed my last breath.

February 1, 2010, 04:30 PM	#4
bob.a Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 298	Unless there's more to the law about so-called sniper scopes, sounds like you could get a modern night-vision scope, which works off ambient light and doesn't require an infrared light source. They're not cheap, and you can't export the more recent models, not that that's a problem for you.