Can someone tell me about this gun? "Alfa Proj"

Pond, James Pond · January 14, 2021, 05:20 AM

It's advertised as a .357 "Alfa Proj".

It looks to be 4", and 6-shot. The grips look to be aftermarket, but I have no idea.

As I understand it is Czech made which is no bad thing and the cylinder stop groove does sit over the weakest part of the chamber which is nice. It doesn't appear to have a full-length ejector but I might be wrong.

Beyond that can anyone add any info on if it's even any good?

74A95 · January 14, 2021, 07:21 AM

Have you Googled it?

Pond, James Pond · January 14, 2021, 07:32 AM

I have.

So I know it’s Czech but I value the opinions on here more than those on random pages or blogs.

Do you know of this company?

lee n. field · January 14, 2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pond, James Pond

It's advertised as a .357 "Alfa Proj".

It looks to be 4", and 6-shot. The grips look to be aftermarket, but I have no idea.

As I understand it is Czech made which is no bad thing and the cylinder stop groove does sit over the weakest part of the chamber which is nice. It doesn't appear to have a full-length ejector but I might be wrong.

Beyond that can anyone add any info on if it's even any good?

Nope.

They were imported to the US by Czechpoint for a while, and now Armscor (aka Rock Island Armory) is bringing them in. Haven't seen much by way of reviews of it as Alfa-Proj.

You might look for reviews on the Armscor version.

What little I see is positive.

arquebus357 · January 14, 2021, 08:57 AM

Looks like the stop groove does NOT sit over the weakest part of the cylinder.

Sorry, but I'm not aware of this revolver, but it sure does look like a quality piece. I doubt Czech's hire homeless people to make their guns.

Pond, James Pond · January 14, 2021, 09:07 AM

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stop groove does NOT sit over the weakest part

Indeed! That’ll teach me to type fast and not check!

Radny97 · January 14, 2021, 10:30 AM

Supposed to be high quality. I’ve never handled one but i have a friend who has and he was impressed.

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**Aguila Blanca** · January 14, 2021, 11:11 AM

There's a Rock Island/Alfa Proj .22 Magnum at the range where I shoot. I need to get over there and check it out. The owner (of the range) said it looks very nice.

**44 AMP** · January 14, 2021, 01:24 PM

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stop groove does NOT sit over the weakest part

Small technical points of terminology
The "stop groove" is usually referred to as the "bolt slot"...

but more importantly where ever it is, it does not "sit over" the weakest part of the cylinder. The bolt stop notch is cut into the cylinder. It MAY be cut over the chamber, and that MAY make that spot the "weakest" spot if the cylinder wall becomes the thinnest spot due to the slot being cut there.

It may not make it the thinnest spot, you have to look at the cylinder to see. Sometimes the walls between the cylinders are the thinnest spot, sometimes not. All depends on how the gun was made.

Also be aware that having the stop slot cut over the chamber is not automatically a bad thing. Guns made like that are proof tested, and do handle the ammunition pressure they were intended to handle, just fine.

It is a "weak spot" but that is only a limitation if you are going to be pushing the gun significantly harder than it was made to be run.

Think of it this way, if you have a truck rated to carry a half ton, and you carry a half ton, its all good, but if you load that half ton truck with 2 tons you're going to have problems.

sorry I can't give you any information specific to the gun in question, its a new one to me.

OneFreeTexan · January 14, 2021, 05:26 PM

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/07/2...roj-revolvers/

For a review

1911_Hardball · January 14, 2021, 07:00 PM

Our experience in the shop is that anything made by the Czechs is really good quality.
In contrast, anything made by the Turks make a good doorstop.

claymore1500 · January 14, 2021, 07:38 PM

The only thing I would be worried about is that thin crane arm, it looks like it would bend fairly easy.

Sgt127 · January 15, 2021, 03:27 AM

I see kind of a Charter Arms personality in that gun.

Not bad. Not great. Likely a decent revolver. I’ve never had a chance to play with one.

Buy it and we will live vicariously through you!!

5whiskey · January 17, 2021, 01:03 AM

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In contrast, anything made by the Turks make a good doorstop.

I dunno, I’ve never owned a canik, Tristar, or the EAA SAR but I’ve shot a tristar and it was awesome. Heard a lot of good from the CANIKs and SARs too.

This is the revolver forum, and I admit I would be quite hesitant to own a Turkish revolver if there is such a creature.

aarondhgraham · January 18, 2021, 11:47 AM

I've been interested in these since Czechpoint started importing themmmm
But wasn't able to get my hands on one for several years

I recently had the opportunity to fire a 6" .22 LR Alfa Proj revolver,,,
It went bang every time I pulled the trigger,,,
And put the bullets into an actual group.

It's nothing special that you want to write home to Mom about,,,
But in the 18 rounds I fired it seemed like a solid gun.

The action was tight but not gritty at all,,,
About what you would expect from any new revolver,,,
I suspect that after a few hundred rounds it will smooth out quite a bit.

Fit and finish is about what you see in modern firearms,,,
Adequate but nothing like the old S&W's or Colts.

If I wasn't done buying guns,,,
I would be looking for one to pair with a rifle I own.

Hope this helps.

Aarond

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January 14, 2021, 05:20 AM	#1
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	Can someone tell me about this gun? "Alfa Proj" It's advertised as a .357 "Alfa Proj". It looks to be 4", and 6-shot. The grips look to be aftermarket, but I have no idea. As I understand it is Czech made which is no bad thing and the cylinder stop groove does sit over the weakest part of the chamber which is nice. It doesn't appear to have a full-length ejector but I might be wrong. Beyond that can anyone add any info on if it's even any good? __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly. Last edited by Pond, James Pond; January 14, 2021 at 05:45 AM.

January 14, 2021, 07:32 AM	#3
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	I have. So I know it’s Czech but I value the opinions on here more than those on random pages or blogs. Do you know of this company? __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

January 14, 2021, 11:11 AM	#8
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	There's a Rock Island/Alfa Proj .22 Magnum at the range where I shoot. I need to get over there and check it out. The owner (of the range) said it looks very nice. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

January 14, 2021, 07:00 PM	#11
1911_Hardball Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2009 Location: SD Posts: 198	Our experience in the shop is that anything made by the Czechs is really good quality. In contrast, anything made by the Turks make a good doorstop. __________________ Shot placement is King, penetration is Queen. Everything else is faeries dancing on the heads of pins.

January 14, 2021, 07:38 PM	#12
claymore1500 Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: northcoast, Ohio Posts: 260	The only thing I would be worried about is that thin crane arm, it looks like it would bend fairly easy. __________________ Where there's a will, I want to be in it.

January 14, 2021, 07:21 AM	#2
74A95 Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2016 Posts: 1,564	Have you Googled it?

January 14, 2021, 08:57 AM	#5
arquebus357 Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2016 Location: Atlanta, Georgia area Posts: 455	Looks like the stop groove does NOT sit over the weakest part of the cylinder. Sorry, but I'm not aware of this revolver, but it sure does look like a quality piece. I doubt Czech's hire homeless people to make their guns.

January 14, 2021, 10:30 AM	#7
Radny97 Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2015 Posts: 1,021	Supposed to be high quality. I’ve never handled one but i have a friend who has and he was impressed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

January 14, 2021, 05:26 PM	#10
OneFreeTexan Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2002 Location: West, Texas Posts: 280	https://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/07/2...roj-revolvers/ For a review

January 15, 2021, 03:27 AM	#13
Sgt127 Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2002 Posts: 1,053	I see kind of a Charter Arms personality in that gun. Not bad. Not great. Likely a decent revolver. I’ve never had a chance to play with one. Buy it and we will live vicariously through you!!

January 18, 2021, 11:47 AM	#15
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	I've been interested in these since Czechpoint started importing themmmm But wasn't able to get my hands on one for several years I recently had the opportunity to fire a 6" .22 LR Alfa Proj revolver,,, It went bang every time I pulled the trigger,,, And put the bullets into an actual group. It's nothing special that you want to write home to Mom about,,, But in the 18 rounds I fired it seemed like a solid gun. The action was tight but not gritty at all,,, About what you would expect from any new revolver,,, I suspect that after a few hundred rounds it will smooth out quite a bit. Fit and finish is about what you see in modern firearms,,, Adequate but nothing like the old S&W's or Colts. If I wasn't done buying guns,,, I would be looking for one to pair with a rifle I own. Hope this helps. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)