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Old February 7, 2019, 02:30 PM   #826
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Old February 20, 2019, 09:46 PM   #827
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It is possible rig up holders for many types setups.,

About shellholder supply for big cases,

RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases..

Here are various sizes........


16ga-- .810" rim,

20ga-- .760" rim,

24ga .725" rim,

28ga .680" rim....
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Old February 21, 2019, 02:50 PM   #828
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This is one of those immortal threads. OP is 10 years old.
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I don’t consider this a zombie thread because the original poster updates it and maintains it regularly.
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I always read the latest posts on this thread. Fascinating subject.
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Old February 24, 2019, 11:02 AM   #831
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Old April 6, 2019, 04:08 PM   #832
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Thankyou all..Would post faster but 78 years

on me and I'm slowed down..Ed




We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed

surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina

and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck.

It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size

size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us..


It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets,

long target and bore rider bullets. Ed..



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Old May 1, 2019, 04:50 AM   #833
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HERE is a video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion

750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAo1mJqw8Y
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Old July 20, 2019, 08:06 PM   #834
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20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having

the sides made too thick...They have thinner sides

than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides

made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures.


Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed......

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Old September 17, 2019, 06:52 AM   #835
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Got guys doing various 416 HEs..

One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days..

And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good

conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within

a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges

had same accuracy. Ed..
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Old November 24, 2019, 02:32 PM   #837
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More about our 416 HSM from BMG brass, and
our 416 HE & 460 HE from our 585 HE cases
Got reamers for 375 HE, 416 HE and 416 HSM,....

460 HE & 460 HSM are all spec'd, got HE reamer
soon have HSM reamer...Our HSMs have a Wea type
radius on the shoulder..

The fellow that set up our 416 HE in an ELR rifle
and got 1/4 min accuracy,
They got some game out west over 1400 yds..
.Here is the gun they set up.
Using a K&P 34" barrel on a BAT action.....Ed

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Old November 27, 2019, 07:19 AM   #838
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And have got a 460 HSM figured out, and the impetus for that is some
asking about one and the great line of 458 bullets CEB now has.
It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM.....Ed..
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Old January 23, 2020, 07:59 PM   #839
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The guys that did the super accurate 416 HE did another
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used a Stiller action and same load with 475 gr bullet, as in
first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is print with specs for
the 416 HE reamer chamber ....Ed....

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Old February 11, 2020, 10:23 AM   #840
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More about he guys that did the accurate 416 HE, they did a
416 HE that has an 8" longer 42 inch K&P barrel..

Used longer barrel and the same load with 475 gr bullet, as used
in the first gun and and gained about 200 fps with good accuracy,.
3065 fps. Tested 2 groups of 3 and less than 1/2 min moa.

And loads they used are not the highest speed loads
the cartridge is capable of....Here is picture............Ed....


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Old July 12, 2020, 09:09 PM   #841
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Here is print with chamber reamer specs for the
416 HSM chamber..There are 3 base sizes we have,
depending on actions used. Got reamers for all 3..
Got cases for all of them..
Our cases are public domain, so that is why I post
info and specs. Manson makes reamers I use,,, Ed.
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Here is reamer print with chamber reamer specs for
the 460 HSM chamber .Couple guys getting set
to do 38-40 inch heavy 458 target barrels...Ed....
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If anyone is working on a 12 gauge, I have the 3.5" chamber reamer for the rifled 12 gauge barrel, and I'm willing to rent/loan-trade.
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Thanks mike....

With 40 inch barrel 416 HSM ,475 gr, get 3650, over 13,000 ft lbs muzzle energy.
Got guys getting set to have 38-40 inch 458 barrels made for 460 HSM.Ed..
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More info on this gun, we did it for testing 416 HSM with a rebated rim,
to check in intermediate size actions, with the longer, stronger, bolt lugs, Ed..
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Old September 22, 2020, 12:13 PM   #846
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Here is experimental action for 416 HSM in a heavy
stock....We lengthened port a little, set bolt stop back ,
opened bolt face fit the 416 HSM rebated rim. Ed.

Here is comparison of Montana PH to Pierce action we
modified to use for rebated rim 416 HSM testing..Ed.
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