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Old April 28, 2019, 08:51 PM   #1
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7 shot H&R Magnum.

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Old April 28, 2019, 08:59 PM   #2
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Make one wonder ~ Professional What?

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Old April 28, 2019, 09:07 PM   #3
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Is it out yet? I see a good chance of my buying ONE of either this, the .327mag Ruger SP101 (3") or the new Colt King Cobra for most of the times when I want to carry a revolver.
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Old April 29, 2019, 04:30 AM   #4
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I see myself getting one of these.....
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The ol' use-a-mirror-to-make-it-look-like-it-holds-twice-as-much-ammo trick.
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Old April 29, 2019, 11:46 AM   #6
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So long as they make the throats .311"-.313" I'll buy one.
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Old April 30, 2019, 09:46 PM   #7
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Along the lines of Bob Wright's comment, what exactly is professional about this revolver?

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Old May 1, 2019, 06:22 AM   #8
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Along the lines of Bob Wright's comment, what exactly is professional about this revolver?
It's an esthetic reference ... Like the difference in dress between your average auto mechanic and a well-tailored executive headed to a board meeting.

Most C.A. revolvers give off a 'workin' Joe' street look. This model, in contrast, exudes a more refined and polished 'upscale look.'

Whether you can appreciate it depends on which side of the 'esthetic' tracks you're from.
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Old May 1, 2019, 08:53 AM   #9
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Why not make it in .327 and have the option of using .32 H&R?
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It's an esthetic reference ... Like the difference in dress between your average auto mechanic and a well-tailored executive headed to a board meeting.

Most C.A. revolvers give off a 'workin' Joe' street look. This model, in contrast, exudes a more refined and polished 'upscale look.'
Polished and straight, with a "nice pair of shoes".
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Old May 1, 2019, 10:10 AM   #11
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what exactly is professional about this revolver?
Because we all know that Professionals would choose a Charter Arms over all other brands, and of course they would choose .32 H&R.

But really the spin is that this "professional" revolver was designed to be a "fighting revolver" with the input of the USCC concealed carry input as per this page:
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blo...ting-revolver/

a 7 round revolver lighter than a Smith 686 plus would be appealing.
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Old May 1, 2019, 10:41 AM   #12
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It's an esthetic reference ... Like the difference in dress between your average auto mechanic and a well-tailored executive headed to a board meeting.

Most C.A. revolvers give off a 'workin' Joe' street look. This model, in contrast, exudes a more refined and polished 'upscale look.'

Whether you can appreciate it depends on which side of the 'esthetic' tracks you're from.
Somewhere in there I think I was called unrefined and from the wrong side of the tracks. Well, since I was born in Appalachia I guess it fits. But really, "exudes a more refined and polished 'upscale look.'" doesn't fit Charter Arms any more than it does me.

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Old May 1, 2019, 10:52 AM   #13
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You know how sometimes something is ALMOST right but almost doesn't count because its really hard to measure...

This. I like the idea of a 32 H+R magnum chambered revolver for carry. I like the idea of 6 shots over 5 though 7 over 6 doesn't seem to matter. Longer barrel length I think is a plus. I dislike fiber tube sights Then I hit 22 ounces...

Its close. But I expect bigger than it needs to be, heavier then I want, and just...

Well ALMOST
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Old May 1, 2019, 10:58 PM   #14
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a 7 round revolver lighter than a Smith 686 plus would be appealing.
This...

I'd bet (as would many others based on other threads on this gun on the web) that they went .32H&R Mag over .327 because the higher pressure .327 at this size would have to be a 6 shooter to be strong enough to handle the round. I'd rather lose the .327 and gain the higher round count if that is the choice. I've long considered buying a 3" 686 Plus, but they are a little big and heavy for regular CCW (as regular as I can get only being able to carry when out of state) and they are a little more expensive than I usually want in a CCW (though I have range guns in the price range and above). This 7 round capability, at lower prices, and a much smaller and lighter weight gun, is most definitely quite appealing.
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Old May 3, 2019, 01:31 PM   #15
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This is basically their Patriot model revolver, but in 7 shot for 32 H&R in a 3" barrel instead of the 327 6 shot in a 2 1/2" barrel. This small framed revolver (in the Patriot series) can't take the full 327's in steady use, so they had to chamber their new one for something milder. They also couldn't call it a Patriot, because that model name was in 327.
I have a Patriot and it's a handful in 327. I can see that firing full factory 327's would have a toll on it. I practice with Longs & 32 H&R's (I reload both) and I'm fine with a nice stout factory 32 H&R+P for carry.
It's a little larger than a J-frame and smaller the a K. Perfect size.
One less round, but if I do decide to carry with 327's, a few rounds out of it won't harm it. Just not for regular range use.
I really like mine and Charter stepped up quality.
Found a really nice old Bianchi holster for it.
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Old May 3, 2019, 06:17 PM   #16
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I'd bet (as would many others based on other threads on this gun on the web) that they went .32H&R Mag over .327 because the higher pressure .327 at this size would have to be a 6 shooter to be strong enough to handle the round. I'd rather lose the .327 and gain the higher round count if that is the choice. I've long considered buying a 3" 686 Plus, but they are a little big and heavy for regular CCW (as regular as I can get only being able to carry when out of state) and they are a little more expensive than I usually want in a CCW (though I have range guns in the price range and above). This 7 round capability, at lower prices, and a much smaller and lighter weight gun, is most definitely quite appealing.
.327 is more than double the pressure of .32 Mag, unnecessarily so IMO. I think had the pressures been 30 to 35k max PSI, that would have been enough, still significantly higher than .32 Mag's 21k max PSI.

.327 can be loaded down to the mid 30k PSI pressures, but the problem is the guns chambered for .327 must be built to withstand full power .327 and that's where it becomes a quagmire. Manufacturers will not make a .327 revolver that's built for an in between .32 Mag and .327 cartridge (let's call this cartridge .327 Special) because if you can chamber the .327 Magnum in a .327 Special revolver, it's unsafe and the legal beagles won't allow it for fear of lawsuits.

So, we're stuck with .32 H&R Mag revolvers that could have a bit extra oomph to them if they were made in a .327 Special version or we're stuck with larger .327 Magnum revolvers that hold less rounds.
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Old May 5, 2019, 09:01 PM   #17
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I want to get my hands on one and look it over.
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Old May 6, 2019, 07:28 PM   #18
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If this were built on the same frame as the Undercover I would have One. The frame size just fits my smaller hands well and 32 mag is sounding better as I get older. The larger frame offers me nothing over my J Frame beyond 7 shots.
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Old May 9, 2019, 09:47 AM   #19
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Because S&W's internal lock hole is such big deal, maybe Charter deserves a second look.
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Old May 9, 2019, 11:57 AM   #20
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I just saw one of CA's ads that proclaimed this a "Fighting Revolver". Well...I don't know who designed that set of stocks, with the huge platform right where my strong hand thumb would go. I would have to alter the two hand grip I have been shooting DA revolvers with since my police academy days (1973). Good grief!

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Old May 9, 2019, 01:02 PM   #21
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I'm in the "shoud have been chambered in 327 Federal" camp. Even if it is only 6 rounds. But then, I also probably wouldn't carry it anyway. Just one of those cool range toys I already have too many of LOL
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Old May 9, 2019, 01:13 PM   #22
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I am for any gun that promotes 32 caliber rounds. I like it and hope they sell a bunch of them. If I were in the market I would would buy one in 32 mag. I wouldn't get one in 327. If I want more power than the 32 mag I will just go all the way up to a 357 and get the benefit of much heavier bullets.

But I already own a S&W model 431PD and a model 631 both in 32 mag. The 431PD only weighs 15oz loaded. It just gets forgotten its in my pocket. The 631 is more of a trail gun but could be carried. It has a 4" barrel instead of the 3" of the Charter but I bet if I can carry a 3" barrel I can carry a 4" barreled gun.

I hope someone buys one of the new Charters and gives a detailed report.
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Old May 9, 2019, 02:38 PM   #23
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I saw a short video on you tube about a guy talking a lot about the gun but wouldn't show it or go over its details up close for some reason.....
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.327 is more than double the pressure of .32 Mag, unnecessarily so IMO. I think had the pressures been 30 to 35k max PSI, that would have been enough, still significantly higher than .32 Mag's 21k max PSI.

.327 can be loaded down to the mid 30k PSI pressures, but the problem is the guns chambered for .327 must be built to withstand full power .327 and that's where it becomes a quagmire. Manufacturers will not make a .327 revolver that's built for an in between .32 Mag and .327 cartridge (let's call this cartridge .327 Special) because if you can chamber the .327 Magnum in a .327 Special revolver, it's unsafe and the legal beagles won't allow it for fear of lawsuits.

So, we're stuck with .32 H&R Mag revolvers that could have a bit extra oomph to them if they were made in a .327 Special version or we're stuck with larger .327 Magnum revolvers that hold less rounds.
Well considering the 327 Fed Mag is more akin to a "327 Casull" then say a 357 S&W Mag, an " in between" 32/327 would be closer to a 327 version of a 357 S&W Mag vs being a "327 Spl." in fact the 32 H&R Mag is more akin to a 38 Spl. +P than a 357 S&W Mag, hence one of the main reasons the 327 Fed Mag was created, although it's a "super magnum".
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without seeing this gun up close I'd say its built on the Bulldog frame in order to get seven .32 chambers in the cylinder.
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