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Old March 20, 2010, 02:36 PM   #1
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Hampton, Virginia.

There was more black powder presence at this show than at any of the last four shows I have attended.

I took along my 1863 Remington to see what I could get for it.

One guy had new Traditions revolvers at Uberti prices. He was not coming off of the prices because the show had just started. Tommorow he may be more willing to negotiate.

Another guy had a bunch of junk. 1858 steel frame Pietta with badly mushroomed nipples, and a lot of corrosion. It came apart real easy so it was not bound up. Action seemed tight. He wanted 250.00 for that. Had an FIE 1851 in .44. This was the model that had all of that fake roll engraving on it. I don't care for that effect. Also had a 1851 in .36 brass that was in abused condition. He wanted 100.00 for that. I think he would have taken 75.00 but even that was too high in my opinion.

There was an original Colt 1860, matching numbers, locked up well at full cock but not at half cock. That started at 950.00. There was a Manhattan that started at 1000.00. That was a sweet little pistol.

A gentleman from Richmond brought four revolvers with him. There was a 12" barrel 1858 Remington and a brass frame 1851. I don't like the long barrel Remingtons and I need another brass frame 1851 like a turtle needs seatbelts. He had a Traditions 1860 CCH frame for 175.00 which was very tempting. Like new condition. My birthday is tomorrow, so I may take another trip up there.

I wound up with a Signature Series 1860 with fluted cylinder, no box or papers. The pistol was tight and I could not get the barrel off at the show. I know that colt 2nd gen and 3rd gen barrels come off real hard so I was not all that worried about it. Actually, I think once they wear in a bit the barrels come off easier. Maybe this pistol has not been handled that much.

The 3rd Gen started at 375.00 and I wound up giving him 210.00 plus the 1863 I had with me. I got the pistol home and got it cleaned up. Looks pretty nice. I worked the arbor over with some sandpaper and the barrel comes off a little easier. I still have to use the loading lever against the cylinder to get it off, but I think it will ease up a bit with use.

There were also a lot of black powder long arms. I am not interested in those but they are nice to look at. No ROAs at all. Plenty of Uberti and Puma CAS rifles. I have GOT to stay away from those. My first rifle was a model 94 and the danged things at the shows just bring back too many good memories.
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Old March 20, 2010, 05:01 PM   #2
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Here are photos of the Colt I bought today and the three of my collection which are either second or third gen.
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Old March 20, 2010, 05:28 PM   #3
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Doc - congrats on the '60 Army - a nice looking pistol as are the others you have. Not that it has anything to do with the one you bought . . . but, years ago I bought what I thought was supposed to be a standard '60 Army from Dixie. When it came, instead of the standard cylinder, they sent me one with the fluted cylinder. Although they are hard to improve upon, I think the fluted cylinder really adds to the looks and is like a double dose of frosting on the cake. Mine shot beautifully - then I lost interest and like a fool, sold it. I wish I had it back. I enjoy my .36 Navies and Remmie but at some point, I'd love to have another one like the one I sold. Good luck with your new one and I hope it shoots as pretty as it looks!
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Old March 21, 2010, 01:41 AM   #4
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Hearing about what's for sale at the show is almost as good as attending it in person.
And it's always a pleasure to see what others have purchased.
I agree that the fluting is very attractive and not all that common to see first hand either.
I recently saw a lightly fired Colt for sale at my local gunshop and the loading lever latch was a just bit loose enough so that it rattled.
Is the loading lever latch nice and tight on yours or does it rattle at all?
Thanks a bunch for sharing your experience at the show with us.

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Old March 21, 2010, 06:09 AM   #5
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I would say it is a bit loose. It doesn't rattle but the lever easily moves from side to side. Actually, I guess you would call that "rattling".

When I posted those photos, I was hoping it would prompt others to post as well.

I think it is Fingers who has probably thirty examples of 2nd and 3rd gens special editions.

You could show me a million photos of Colt 1851 and 1860 pattern revolvers and when you showed me the million and first photo, I would still say, "Dang...Thats a purdy pistol."

The gentleman who sold me this pistol seems to be geniunely honst and of high integrity. I would willingly do business with him any time.

His card says:

David Eaves
Roman Coins and Militaria
804-855-9084
[email protected]

I am fairly certain that is a Richmond VA exchange. I have seen him at the Hampton shows, but not Norfolk or Virginia Beach. This means he is willing to drive to Hampton (About an hour and a quarter) but not come through the tunnel which adds about three quarters of an hour to the ride.
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Old March 21, 2010, 09:22 AM   #6
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Great score Doc. Looking at your photo's, is that front blade brass? Mine is German silver, maybe it's just the angle it's at.

Here's my fluted 60, one of the prettiest revolvers Sam made.

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Old March 21, 2010, 09:51 AM   #7
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It is brass as is the trigger guard.

The pistol has some handling marks on it. It is not perfect but, I think still quite good.

I included the gentleman's contact information in hopes that it might spur some business from others on the forum. His ethics seem to be impressive and these are the kind of people I like to support.
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Sounds like the perfect shooter to me. I see the silver is starting to wear on my front blade and it's only been fired a few dozen times.
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Old March 21, 2010, 10:11 AM   #9
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beautiful colt, congrats on your new member of the family! i know your a proud papa of that colt.
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Old March 21, 2010, 11:07 AM   #10
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I prefer the 1860 to the ROA, after using both for a few years.

Here's my 5 1/2" M1860, in a pretty rustic case:



I'm thinking about crafting a finer case for it.

Here's it's longer-barreled M1860 brother (on the right, below), with my cased ROA & a Patterson clone.



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Old March 27, 2010, 07:25 PM   #11
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Here in Oklahoma it has been just the opposite with replica percussion revolvers. The last four shows I attended in Tulsa and Oklahoma City there were fewer than three revolvers. I wish I could make those shows in the Northeast and East. I hear about all kind of jewels at these shows. A guy contacted me a while back wanting to know about a Witloe Grant Model that his son had bought for $65. This was in Michigan I believe. Wouldn't sell it to because his son was shooting it. Someone had put target sights on it which really depreciated its value.

Looking forward to the big Wanenmacher's Tulsa Arms Show in a couple of weeks.
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