H&K smgs

Freeman25 · June 2, 2005, 01:22 PM

I've been thinking on HK smgs.
Does the Mp5 or UMP's charging/cocking lever move when a shot is fired? And if it does, when the last shot is fired will it lock up(like a bolt catch)?
I'm asking it on the forum because I'm sure someone have fired an Mp5 (LE or Military)
Thanks
Max

Greenfurniture · June 2, 2005, 01:23 PM

They do not recipricate, but do hold open on last round.

shaggy · June 2, 2005, 01:39 PM

There's no last round bolt catch on the MP5; I think the UMP does have one though.

Freeman25 · June 2, 2005, 04:03 PM

ok. than can someone tell me what happens when the last shot is fired and how you reload the weapon?

Asmodeous · June 2, 2005, 04:05 PM

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ok. than can someone tell me what happens when the last shot is fired and how you reload the weapon?

You replace the magazine and pull back the charging handle, at least on the G3 and MP5

Extremist · June 2, 2005, 06:55 PM

Actually, on the MP5 9mm, you lock the bolt back with the charging handle, THEN you drop the mag and replace it.

James

**4V50 Gary** · June 2, 2005, 08:07 PM

On the 40 S&W and 10 mm versions of the MP-5, I believe there is a bolt hold open on them like on the UMP.

Regarding the reloading issue, you reload when you want to, not when you have to. Sometimes tracers are put in to alert the user that it's near the end of the magazine. That's why it may be better not to fully load a magazine since it's harder to seat a fully loaded magazine than a partially loaded one. It all depends on your training.

Asmodeous · June 3, 2005, 01:30 PM

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Actually, on the MP5 9mm, you lock the bolt back with the charging handle, THEN you drop the mag and replace it.

Well, you can do that with a G3, too

Mikkel · June 9, 2005, 10:49 AM

I used the G3 and MP5 in the millitary, they were and still is exellent weapons of war. Ill still go for the G3 if i had to pick only one.

luchs · June 9, 2005, 10:57 AM

when in a MP5 teh last round was fired the bolt rst open blocked by the magazine follower...to reload you must drop the empty magazine,replace with a full and push back the charging handle...
the charging handle not follow the bolt when moving,but you can use it to block the bolt forward to clean and inspect the barrel ...

Freeman25 · June 10, 2005, 03:40 AM

luchs,
"when in a MP5 teh last round was fired the bolt rst open blocked by the magazine follower..."
According to the operators manual(on biggerhammer.net) this is not true.

luchs · June 10, 2005, 12:09 PM

according on my MP 5 first model and my B&T 96 is true...

Freeman25 · June 10, 2005, 12:50 PM

is your mp5 chambered for 10mm/.40 ammo?

luchs · June 12, 2005, 12:58 PM

the MP5 first model 9x19mm,the B&T 96 9x21..

Hkmp5sd · June 12, 2005, 01:37 PM

My 9mm MP5SD does not hold the bolt open after the last shot. As originally designed, there was no hold open feature on the MP5.

June 2, 2005, 01:22 PM	#1
Freeman25 Member Join Date: January 21, 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 98	H&K smgs I've been thinking on HK smgs. Does the Mp5 or UMP's charging/cocking lever move when a shot is fired? And if it does, when the last shot is fired will it lock up(like a bolt catch)? I'm asking it on the forum because I'm sure someone have fired an Mp5 (LE or Military) Thanks Max __________________ Everyone has to earn his title. Max

June 2, 2005, 01:23 PM	#2
Greenfurniture Senior Member Join Date: December 7, 2004 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 209	They do not recipricate, but do hold open on last round. __________________ Drink your Kool-Aid, follow me.

June 2, 2005, 04:03 PM	#4
Freeman25 Member Join Date: January 21, 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 98	ok. than can someone tell me what happens when the last shot is fired and how you reload the weapon? __________________ Everyone has to earn his title. Max

June 2, 2005, 06:55 PM	#6
Extremist Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 275	Actually, on the MP5 9mm, you lock the bolt back with the charging handle, THEN you drop the mag and replace it. James __________________ DPS Certified CHL Instructor IDPA CSO, CDP/ESP/SSP/CCP/BUG EX, REV SS USPSA CRO, LIM-C, SS-C, CO-C, Certified Glock Armorer NRA H-R-S-HFS-RO, NRA Life Member, TSRA Member

June 2, 2005, 08:07 PM	#7
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	On the 40 S&W and 10 mm versions of the MP-5, I believe there is a bolt hold open on them like on the UMP. Regarding the reloading issue, you reload when you want to, not when you have to. Sometimes tracers are put in to alert the user that it's near the end of the magazine. That's why it may be better not to fully load a magazine since it's harder to seat a fully loaded magazine than a partially loaded one. It all depends on your training. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 2, 2005, 01:39 PM	#3
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	There's no last round bolt catch on the MP5; I think the UMP does have one though.

June 9, 2005, 10:49 AM	#9
Mikkel Member Join Date: January 6, 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 81	I used the G3 and MP5 in the millitary, they were and still is exellent weapons of war. Ill still go for the G3 if i had to pick only one.

June 9, 2005, 10:57 AM	#10
luchs Member Join Date: April 9, 2005 Posts: 28	when in a MP5 teh last round was fired the bolt rst open blocked by the magazine follower...to reload you must drop the empty magazine,replace with a full and push back the charging handle... the charging handle not follow the bolt when moving,but you can use it to block the bolt forward to clean and inspect the barrel ...

June 10, 2005, 03:40 AM	#11
Freeman25 Member Join Date: January 21, 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 98	luchs, "when in a MP5 teh last round was fired the bolt rst open blocked by the magazine follower..." According to the operators manual(on biggerhammer.net) this is not true. __________________ Everyone has to earn his title. Max

June 10, 2005, 12:09 PM	#12
luchs Member Join Date: April 9, 2005 Posts: 28	according on my MP 5 first model and my B&T 96 is true...

June 10, 2005, 12:50 PM	#13
Freeman25 Member Join Date: January 21, 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 98	is your mp5 chambered for 10mm/.40 ammo? __________________ Everyone has to earn his title. Max

June 12, 2005, 12:58 PM	#14
luchs Member Join Date: April 9, 2005 Posts: 28	the MP5 first model 9x19mm,the B&T 96 9x21..

June 12, 2005, 01:37 PM	#15
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	My 9mm MP5SD does not hold the bolt open after the last shot. As originally designed, there was no hold open feature on the MP5.