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robs9 · February 10, 2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

the bbl should be marked what gauge it is, and..what it can handle. most likely 2.5 and 3" shells.

I have not used a magnifying glass on it yet. But so far I have not found any markings on it at all. Is there a specific place to look?

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robs9 · February 10, 2021, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

if its an adjustable c-lect choke, itll have choke markings in increments... cyl-ic-mod-full as you tighten or loosen. if not, its a removable single choke.

I did not notice any increment markings on it. But I'm thinking that it is a single choke. Because I can look straight into the barrel. If you look at the picture (I know it's not a good picture) you'll see what I mean.

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Bill DeShivs · February 10, 2021, 11:33 AM

You haven't noticed any markings on the gun, either.
Chokes don't restrict the bore. You can see down the barrel of any choked gun.
You still haven't told us the bore size.

**Mike Irwin** · February 10, 2021, 12:31 PM

Choke constrictions are generally so slight that they're largely invisible to the eye. You often need a caliper to determine if there's a choke in the barrel if it's not marked.

stuckinthe60s · February 10, 2021, 03:34 PM

sounds like your gun is NOT the select choke system. as mentioned before, Mossberg did make a gun with interchangeable chokes, such as yours. marks should be on the left rear of bbl.

robs9 · February 10, 2021, 04:37 PM

Choke came off pretty easily. Cheap caliper measured . 40 65

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stuckinthe60s · February 11, 2021, 06:18 AM

do you have any ammo laying around. what fits in the gun? its obviously not a 12ga. maybe a 16 or 20?

robs9 · February 11, 2021, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

do you have any ammo laying around. what fits in the gun? its obviously not a 12ga. maybe a 16 or 20?

Ya its definitely not a 12 gauge. All I have is some 410 ammo left over from a Taurus Judge. But have not tried it yet.

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robs9 · February 11, 2021, 12:30 PM

So I found a box of 410. Was able to get one into the chamber. Felt as if it seated correctly. Put one in magazine. Pushed bolt forward and it picked up the round and put it in the chamber. I then pulled back on the bolt and the round was extracted correctly. I was only able to get three into the internal magazine. Not sure if that is the correct amount, but it didn't feel like I could get one more in. I'm going to try and find a local gunsmith to look at it and see if it's safe to shoot.

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**44 AMP** · February 11, 2021, 02:09 PM

3 sounds about right for the internal box magazine. Don't know about the 20, but the 16s and 12s only held 2 in their mags (which also made them Fed Migratory bird compliant)

stuckinthe60s · February 11, 2021, 02:49 PM

sounds like a 410. good.

stuckinthe60s · February 11, 2021, 02:50 PM

are your safe/fire indicators intact in the stock?

robs9 · February 11, 2021, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

are your safe/fire indicators intact in the stock?

I didn't notice. I'll have to look at the area around the safety. I did figure out how the safety worked. Knew it had to have one and there's this lever looking piece behind the bolt. Wasn't a lever. It moved side to side. Pushed it sideways, pulled the trigger. Nothing. Pushed it back and the trigger moved back and click.

I quess I would like to know if there are any manuals around to take it apart to clean and lube. Might want to try and refinish the wood also.

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stuckinthe60s · February 11, 2021, 06:46 PM

open the bolt, pull the trigger, pull the bolt out. its that simple. just make sure you don't twist the bolt after you take it out. it must realign going in....with the trigger pulled as it does.

robs9 · February 11, 2021, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckinthe60s

open the bolt, pull the trigger, pull the bolt out. its that simple. just make sure you don't twist the bolt after you take it out. it must realign going in....with the trigger pulled as it does.

I have a ultrasonic cleaner that can clean the bolt with. Is there any more takedown on the bolt other just taking it out? I also noticed that the plate on the bottom of what I think is the magazine looks like it may be easily removed. Any springs I need to watch out for?

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robs9 · February 13, 2021, 09:54 AM

As you can see in the picture I got the bolt out. Put it in my ultrasonic cleaner with Otis cleaning fluid. For about two hours with heat. Quite a bit of crap was in the bottom of the tank. I'm going to do a further clean more detailed clean. Is there any further takedown?

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Smoke & Recoil · February 13, 2021, 02:56 PM

You may find this link interesting...http://www.jnjonlineauction.com/deta...83-D-410-GAUGE

robs9 · February 13, 2021, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke & Recoil

You may find this link interesting...http://www.jnjonlineauction.com/deta...83-D-410-GAUGE

Thanks, Have to clean mine up to get that kind of money.

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stuckinthe60s · February 14, 2021, 10:47 AM

that's all you need to take it down.

FunGramps · February 14, 2021, 11:36 AM

Remember not to use steel shot in this gun, as it may bulge the barrel.

robs9 · February 14, 2021, 12:28 PM

So yesterday I decided to work on getting this gun apart. The biggest screw on the bottom was the toughest. Had to put a little bit of Kroil on it and let it soak. Looks like this gun had been apart a few times. All of the screw's have been buggers up. Did that on last Thursday. Had to put the stock in a vise to hold it still. Then used a screwdriver with a wrench to help in turning force to get it loose. Two other wood screws and she was separated. Any ideas on what the wood is? I sanded it a little. Almost feels like plastic. But I know from its age that it can't be. And any ideas on how to finish both the wood and metal parts?

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Marco Califo · February 14, 2021, 04:00 PM

Could be walnut. If not, it is a hardwood. Linseed oil was once used on walnut to finish stocks. You could rub those scuff marks with a drop of linseed oil.
Safety note: Linseed oil is "chemically active", plastizes wood, and has been proven to spontaneously combust, when stored in contact with diesel fuel.
Rags with linseed oil, tossed inside a shop vac, later used to vacumn a diesel spill, wait 12-24 hours, caused a fire at a huge datacenter.

robs9 · February 14, 2021, 05:02 PM

I do remember rubing down the stock of my dad's 30-06 with linseed oil. I did do a light sanding with I think 150 grain sandpaper and it turned that lightish gray color. Probably have to sand the whole thing down to make it match. And then find a small can of linseed oil to finish it. Then on to the metal parts. I have never finished a gun before so haven't got a clue where to start.

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stuckinthe60s · February 14, 2021, 06:58 PM

the gun in its aged look, is classic. I wouldn't bugger it up one bit. clean it. oil it. shoot it. enjoy it.

stuckinthe60s · February 14, 2021, 06:59 PM

could that plastic stuff you feel be someones old bedding?

February 10, 2021, 11:33 AM	#28
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	You haven't noticed any markings on the gun, either. Chokes don't restrict the bore. You can see down the barrel of any choked gun. You still haven't told us the bore size. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

February 10, 2021, 12:31 PM	#29
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	Choke constrictions are generally so slight that they're largely invisible to the eye. You often need a caliper to determine if there's a choke in the barrel if it's not marked. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

February 10, 2021, 03:34 PM	#30
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	sounds like your gun is NOT the select choke system. as mentioned before, Mossberg did make a gun with interchangeable chokes, such as yours. marks should be on the left rear of bbl. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner Last edited by stuckinthe60s; February 11, 2021 at 07:32 AM.

February 11, 2021, 06:18 AM	#32
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	do you have any ammo laying around. what fits in the gun? its obviously not a 12ga. maybe a 16 or 20? __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner Last edited by stuckinthe60s; February 11, 2021 at 07:33 AM.

February 11, 2021, 02:09 PM	#35
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,791	3 sounds about right for the internal box magazine. Don't know about the 20, but the 16s and 12s only held 2 in their mags (which also made them Fed Migratory bird compliant) __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

February 10, 2021, 04:37 PM	#31
robs9 Member Join Date: December 11, 2016 Posts: 24	Choke came off pretty easily. Cheap caliper measured . 40 65 Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

February 11, 2021, 12:30 PM	#34
robs9 Member Join Date: December 11, 2016 Posts: 24	So I found a box of 410. Was able to get one into the chamber. Felt as if it seated correctly. Put one in magazine. Pushed bolt forward and it picked up the round and put it in the chamber. I then pulled back on the bolt and the round was extracted correctly. I was only able to get three into the internal magazine. Not sure if that is the correct amount, but it didn't feel like I could get one more in. I'm going to try and find a local gunsmith to look at it and see if it's safe to shoot. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

February 11, 2021, 02:49 PM	#36
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	sounds like a 410. good. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

February 11, 2021, 02:50 PM	#37
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	are your safe/fire indicators intact in the stock? __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

February 11, 2021, 06:46 PM	#39
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	open the bolt, pull the trigger, pull the bolt out. its that simple. just make sure you don't twist the bolt after you take it out. it must realign going in....with the trigger pulled as it does. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

February 13, 2021, 09:54 AM	#41
robs9 Member Join Date: December 11, 2016 Posts: 24	As you can see in the picture I got the bolt out. Put it in my ultrasonic cleaner with Otis cleaning fluid. For about two hours with heat. Quite a bit of crap was in the bottom of the tank. I'm going to do a further clean more detailed clean. Is there any further takedown? Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

February 13, 2021, 02:56 PM	#42
Smoke & Recoil Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: East shore of Lake Michigan. Posts: 714	You may find this link interesting...http://www.jnjonlineauction.com/deta...83-D-410-GAUGE __________________ Sent from my Tandy 1000

February 14, 2021, 10:47 AM	#44
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	that's all you need to take it down. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

February 14, 2021, 11:36 AM	#45
FunGramps Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2018 Location: Leftern Washington Posts: 240	Remember not to use steel shot in this gun, as it may bulge the barrel. __________________ Finding a wise liberal is as easy as inventing perpetual motion.

February 14, 2021, 12:28 PM	#46
robs9 Member Join Date: December 11, 2016 Posts: 24	So yesterday I decided to work on getting this gun apart. The biggest screw on the bottom was the toughest. Had to put a little bit of Kroil on it and let it soak. Looks like this gun had been apart a few times. All of the screw's have been buggers up. Did that on last Thursday. Had to put the stock in a vise to hold it still. Then used a screwdriver with a wrench to help in turning force to get it loose. Two other wood screws and she was separated. Any ideas on what the wood is? I sanded it a little. Almost feels like plastic. But I know from its age that it can't be. And any ideas on how to finish both the wood and metal parts? Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

February 14, 2021, 04:00 PM	#47
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,596	Could be walnut. If not, it is a hardwood. Linseed oil was once used on walnut to finish stocks. You could rub those scuff marks with a drop of linseed oil. Safety note: Linseed oil is "chemically active", plastizes wood, and has been proven to spontaneously combust, when stored in contact with diesel fuel. Rags with linseed oil, tossed inside a shop vac, later used to vacumn a diesel spill, wait 12-24 hours, caused a fire at a huge datacenter. __________________ ............

February 14, 2021, 05:02 PM	#48
robs9 Member Join Date: December 11, 2016 Posts: 24	I do remember rubing down the stock of my dad's 30-06 with linseed oil. I did do a light sanding with I think 150 grain sandpaper and it turned that lightish gray color. Probably have to sand the whole thing down to make it match. And then find a small can of linseed oil to finish it. Then on to the metal parts. I have never finished a gun before so haven't got a clue where to start. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk

February 14, 2021, 06:58 PM	#49
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	the gun in its aged look, is classic. I wouldn't bugger it up one bit. clean it. oil it. shoot it. enjoy it. __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

February 14, 2021, 06:59 PM	#50
stuckinthe60s Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2017 Location: Va., Ct., Mo.. Posts: 875	could that plastic stuff you feel be someones old bedding? __________________ Retired Military Aviation Former Member Navy Shooting Team Distinguished Pistol Shot,NRA Shotgun/Pistol Instructor NSSA All American, Skeet/Trap Range Owner

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