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November 11, 2017, 05:33 PM | #26 | |
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November 11, 2017, 08:00 PM | #27 |
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Yea, that's standard SRH.
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http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt10mag.htm Conversion done, ... you'll have one wheelgun capable of shooting the .40S&W, 10mm AUTO, and 10mm Magnum cartridges, all using the same moon clips. It's called a 3-in-1 fun toy. Heavy? Yeah, but with the 10mmMag option and being scopable, it has definite and potent hunting use. EDIT: attached a pic of a 6.5 S&W 610 which had its cylinder chambers converted to accept 10mm Mag cartridges. Last edited by agtman; November 12, 2017 at 11:45 AM. |
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If they had it would say "10mm Magnum" and Hornady would be selling factory ammo.
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November 12, 2017, 03:04 PM | #31 |
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And I'm sure all this could be done in a 5 shot GP100.
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As far as "what Ruger had in mind," maybe not the the sales or PR department, but their engineers sure did. I've got no doubt they studied up on previous 10mm Magnum conversions done to the S&W 610s (which were L-frames) - by various 'smiths, like Hamilton Bowen and Gary Reeder - and anticipated that possibility here. Otherwise, why go with such a large-frame wheelie when the GP's frame would've sufficed for handling maximum 10mm AUTO loads, and certainly any 40S&W loads? Except for weight, there's no downside to the strength of the larger frame. Last edited by agtman; November 12, 2017 at 04:48 PM. |
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Because it's easier and cheaper to run moon clips in the SRH. No downside? Yea... But there really isn't an up side for the consumer, either. It helps Ruger. Does nothing for the consumer. Ruger doesn't build fantasies. They build firearms intended to fire SAAMI-spec cartridges -- not obscure wildcats or stupidly-overpressure handloads.
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That's the same question 90% of the posters on this thread are wondering. And There is a huge downside to the strength of the larger frame. It looks and feels like a tank. If there were no downside to SRH sized guns every gun built would be that huge but alas they are not.
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C'mon, dude, it ain't rocket science .... Attached is a pic of a .357 GP-100 that was converted to 10mm AUTO by Clements Customs (not mine). Last edited by agtman; November 13, 2017 at 08:17 AM. |
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November 12, 2017, 07:07 PM | #36 | |
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We already agree that its weight (that's as in "heavy" ) is a downside to the SRH frame. The remainder of your post treads into superfluous confusion. |
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November 12, 2017, 07:35 PM | #37 |
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41 Mag For Me
Have owned several Smith 41s over the years and still have a SS 4". Several years ago, I acquired a Bisley Blackhawk. With 7.5" barrel, it comes in at 48 ounces and is a joy to load and shoot. Don't get the vinyl, get the real leather.
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November 12, 2017, 07:52 PM | #38 | |
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My bud just bought a Glock 10mm and I shot a couple of mags through it and it was nice but it wasn't the hand wrenching powerhouse I thought it was going to be. He bought it for Bear protection for when he goes trout fishing in Colorado. I never understood what it would do that the 44 mag Redhawk he has wouldn't do. I think he just wanted a new gun. Nuthin' wrong with that. |
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November 13, 2017, 03:09 PM | #40 |
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I doubt that competition shooting is the main reason people would buy this revolver or the reason Ruger is manufacturing it.
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It's not a necessary set of modifications on the SRH... Looking at pictures can be fun. But I've actually taken measurements to see what would be necessary.
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This interests me not at all, my 610 is big and heavy enough.
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November 14, 2017, 04:01 PM | #44 |
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Underwood.. Rolls great 10mm ammo ...
And Ruger builds a great DA revolver... GP100 with a 4 inch barrel would be the ticket .. |
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A 5" Gp100 5 shot in 10mm sounds a lot better to me.
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Have to ask why a 10mm version at all. Isn't that frame already avail. in 41Mag. Seems like that's basically the same thing, just in rimless.
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The better cartridge analogy is between the .41 magnum and the 10mm Magnum. If a RedHawk frame can safely handle hot, maxed-out .41 mag loads, then it can safely handle 10mm Magnum loads. That's probably the frame Ruger should've chosen for its first 10mm wheelie, rather than the bulkier SRH. But, as I argued earlier, Ruger engineers might simply have been overly cautious due to awareness of the not-so-few S&W 610 owners who had wheelgun 'smiths convert their 610's cylinder to fire 10mm Mag loads. For the cartridge-history conscious, the energy range of the 10mm Mag bears an interesting similarity to the now-extinct Herter's .401 PowerMag cartridge, which waaay back in the day competed with the .41 Magnum before fading ... See, e.g. : http://www.gunblast.com/Fryxell_Herters401.htm Sometimes the old becomes new again. Last edited by agtman; November 15, 2017 at 05:22 PM. |
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Forgive me if I'm out of order, but I see this all the time.
10mm Magnum aside, I am not sure where folks are getting the idea that a 10mm is in the same league as the 41 rem Mag. It's not. It's closer to 357 Magnum really and can't hang with the 41 in the real world. I have both, and the 41 is more better in a revolver for sure. My 41 magnum (Model 58) with a 4" barrel can beat my Glock 20 with a 5.3" barrel by hundreds of feet per second. 41 mag: 210g @ 1400 = 914 ft lb 10mm : 200g @ 1200 = 640 ft lb Not close. Just sayin' |
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But where folks might get the idea that these cartridges have general energy parity is when cherry-picking certain loads to compare, ... say, Winchester's 10mm 175gn STHP at an alleged 1290fps/649fpe to the Winny .41 Mag STHP at 1250fps/607fpe. Haven't checked Winny's 41 mag ST load lately, so they could've changed it. |
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Over the years Ruger has chambered many obscure offerings. Every time I think about the 250 Savage M77 Ultralight that I pass up, I kick myself. But, a 10mm SRH? I am just not feeling the attraction.
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