After Sonic cleaning bolt and trigger assembly

mlk3454 · January 28, 2017, 10:20 AM

I have used a harbor freight sonic cleaner for brass for years and finally decided to take apart the 1187 and put the bolt, stock nut/washers, trigger assembly, etc in the cleaner with the Hornady cleaner. It did great but after it dries there is a very thin layer of rust (no pitting) on some surfaces. How would you guys lube these parts as they aren't noted as being lubed in the manual but I want a layer of protection if possible. Thanks!

~Matt

guncrank · January 28, 2017, 11:35 AM

Spray bottle filled with oil

mlk3454 · January 28, 2017, 01:12 PM

Thanks for the reply. I was wondering opinions on any special oils or dry lube to use. I don't want to gum up the action at all especially during late duck season and clay shooting.

~Matt

Slopemeno · January 28, 2017, 03:33 PM

We used Breakfree CLP in a 32-oz spray bottle.

Bill DeShivs · January 28, 2017, 04:26 PM

WD 40 will do a great job of getting lube into all the parts.
Soak it down and wipe it off with a cloth or paper towels.

mlk3454 · January 28, 2017, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the replies!

~Matt

Mobuck · January 29, 2017, 09:03 AM

Amazing-when you remove all the oil from steel parts, they rust.

Texas45 · January 29, 2017, 09:39 AM

Corrosion X for guns.
Lubes, cleans, and prevents rust WAY better than WD40.
Metal is not smooth and water in the low spots is actually cover and sealed in by WD.
Many much better products available than water displacement formula 40.
http://www.corrosionx.com/corrosionx-for-guns.html

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mlk3454 · January 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

It is amazing both how well the sonic cleaner did but also how the rust formed in a couple spots that never had it. A light cleaner pulled the rust and I'm going to use the REM dry lube in the bolt and hoppes elite on the rest since I have them already.

I have seen a sonic solution used after the cleaner that once the item is removed and dry a thin layer of lube remains...I can't remember the make...Lyman? That may be a smart purchase.

~Matt

Bill DeShivs · January 29, 2017, 01:19 PM

Strange- in 45+ years of using WD 40, I have never seen it "cover" water. I use ultrasonics every day in my shop, nor have I ever had a problem with rusting.
So, how much better is "better?"

James K · January 29, 2017, 03:12 PM

Sonic cleaners remove everything, dirt, lube, old grease, light oil, dirt, crud, etc. When a gun is cleaned that way, ALL protection is removed from the work and a ferrous metal will rust very quickly in the presence of any significant humidity.

The only way to prevent that is to either use a rust-preventive (oil) immediately or move to a dry climate, the former being a bit less expensive.

Jim

January 28, 2017, 10:20 AM	#1
mlk3454 Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 60	After Sonic cleaning bolt and trigger assembly I have used a harbor freight sonic cleaner for brass for years and finally decided to take apart the 1187 and put the bolt, stock nut/washers, trigger assembly, etc in the cleaner with the Hornady cleaner. It did great but after it dries there is a very thin layer of rust (no pitting) on some surfaces. How would you guys lube these parts as they aren't noted as being lubed in the manual but I want a layer of protection if possible. Thanks! ~Matt

January 28, 2017, 11:35 AM	#2
guncrank Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2006 Location: Fern Creek ,KY and Metro Louisville at large Posts: 430	Spray bottle filled with oil __________________ Republic Arms and Armaments 07 1-502-231-1118 Machine Shop and Finishing Services to the trade and public

January 28, 2017, 04:26 PM	#5
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,981	WD 40 will do a great job of getting lube into all the parts. Soak it down and wipe it off with a cloth or paper towels. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

January 29, 2017, 01:19 PM	#10
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,981	Strange- in 45+ years of using WD 40, I have never seen it "cover" water. I use ultrasonics every day in my shop, nor have I ever had a problem with rusting. So, how much better is "better?" __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

January 28, 2017, 01:12 PM	#3
mlk3454 Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 60	Thanks for the reply. I was wondering opinions on any special oils or dry lube to use. I don't want to gum up the action at all especially during late duck season and clay shooting. ~Matt

January 28, 2017, 03:33 PM	#4
Slopemeno Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2007 Posts: 2,663	We used Breakfree CLP in a 32-oz spray bottle.

January 28, 2017, 05:12 PM	#6
mlk3454 Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 60	Thanks for the replies! ~Matt

January 29, 2017, 09:03 AM	#7
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	Amazing-when you remove all the oil from steel parts, they rust.

January 29, 2017, 09:39 AM	#8
Texas45 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2016 Posts: 223	Corrosion X for guns. Lubes, cleans, and prevents rust WAY better than WD40. Metal is not smooth and water in the low spots is actually cover and sealed in by WD. Many much better products available than water displacement formula 40. http://www.corrosionx.com/corrosionx-for-guns.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

January 29, 2017, 11:06 AM	#9
mlk3454 Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 60	It is amazing both how well the sonic cleaner did but also how the rust formed in a couple spots that never had it. A light cleaner pulled the rust and I'm going to use the REM dry lube in the bolt and hoppes elite on the rest since I have them already. I have seen a sonic solution used after the cleaner that once the item is removed and dry a thin layer of lube remains...I can't remember the make...Lyman? That may be a smart purchase. ~Matt

January 29, 2017, 03:12 PM	#11
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Sonic cleaners remove everything, dirt, lube, old grease, light oil, dirt, crud, etc. When a gun is cleaned that way, ALL protection is removed from the work and a ferrous metal will rust very quickly in the presence of any significant humidity. The only way to prevent that is to either use a rust-preventive (oil) immediately or move to a dry climate, the former being a bit less expensive. Jim