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Old August 19, 2015, 11:10 AM   #1
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Suppressor First timer

I understand and can duplicate tje inner workings of a suppressor, both newer and older styles. I have a pistol equipped to handle one, but I have looked at comercially available suppressors and don't really want to spend that much.

disclaimer: I know this advice is worth exactly what I paid for it, and I agree to get local professional legal advice before I proceed. I am strictly assessing feasablity.

With that said, what do I need to do to build a suppressor legally, as far as registration, tax stamp, etc. This is my first foray into NFA ownership.
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Old August 19, 2015, 11:29 AM   #2
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Its actually very easy.

You would submit a form 1 (application to make a NFA item). Pay your $200 tax and wait for approval. Then and only then can you start the build

Lots of good info on Sliencertalk.com
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Old August 19, 2015, 12:51 PM   #3
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Perfect! Thank you.

This a Per Item fee, right?
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Old August 19, 2015, 01:01 PM   #4
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Yep. $200 for every item made. No extra parts allowed (extra baffles are a no no)
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Old August 19, 2015, 01:57 PM   #5
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I also recommend getting a Trust. Form 1 Trusts filed online are coming back in around 6 weeks as opposed to several months. Plus, you can add people to your trust (for instance, your wife/husband if you're married) and that allows them access to it so you don't have to keep it in a safe that they can't access. There are other benefits to a trust. They can be had for around $100
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Old August 20, 2015, 12:49 AM   #6
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I'm new to this part of the firearms world. Define a "trust" please.

"Extra baffles are a no no."
This sort of behooves a person to use the more modern machined metal types then I suppose, since brushes and wipes and such couldn't be replaced.
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Old August 20, 2015, 08:51 AM   #7
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There's this thread at the top of the page than discusses Trusts.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527153

Approval times vary quite a bit by region. Each region has an assigned paperwork inspector and some of them are busier (or just slower) than others.
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Old August 20, 2015, 09:25 AM   #8
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Yes a Trust is a much easier way to go. As of now it also eliminates the need for your Sheriff/Police chief to give approval for the item.

Very few modern cans us wipes or brushes. Most are individual baffles stacked inside the tube. Some use a "monocore" system. Wipes ARE allowed to be replaced but not Baffles

Check out silencer talk.com LOTS of helpful info. Plans and machining advice. Guys that can walk you thru getting a trust set up.

One word of warning and you should listen to THIS... Silencers are ADDICTIVE!!!!! You will NOT stop at one. Lol

Ive got 5 currently. My "dealer" txted me last night, number 6 just arrived and ive got to stop by to sign paperwork transfering it to me. Ive already got plans for #7.
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Old August 20, 2015, 01:10 PM   #9
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Well, they might be too pricey to be addictive...yeah, that's the way it worked with guns...but this might just be a one-off in my collection. You see I bought a Walther P-22, and it came with a replacement barrel bushing that is threaded, thus sparking my interest.
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Old August 20, 2015, 01:13 PM   #10
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I haven't any machine tools. Any suggestions? Thus is why I was considering older methods rather than a baffle stack.
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Old August 20, 2015, 01:15 PM   #11
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You can buy a thread adaptor and Form 1 an oil filter suppressor. No Machining and works pretty good onna 22lr
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Old August 20, 2015, 01:48 PM   #12
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I'm familiar with the "oil can", but would prefer a more typical approach.

It seems like the alternating steel and rubber washers in the deLisle carbine would be easy to duplicate, and virtually indestructible in a .22lr.
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Old August 20, 2015, 04:39 PM   #13
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You could look to a website like SDtactical arms. Many places sell Maglite flashlight tubes (steel/aluminum/titanium) with threaded ends which a cap will slide over. You can purchase the tube, caps to thread on to a barrel, freezer plugs, and a centering jig to drill the whole out of your own freezer plug. You will likely need a drill press but not much else. If you're just looking for a .22, a lot of people have been happy going this way.
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Old August 20, 2015, 10:29 PM   #14
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That seems like a good way to proceed...
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Old August 21, 2015, 12:00 AM   #15
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Just make sure you understand the process for doing so. It's not illegal to have a Maglite tube or even freezer plugs, but having all of those things with the intent to build before you get your tax stamp is far more dicey.
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Old August 21, 2015, 12:24 PM   #16
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...but having g all those things with the intent to build...
Good point. The items are all readily and cheaply available, so I'll be sure to hold off pending approval.
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Old August 21, 2015, 12:30 PM   #17
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FWIW, it would be useful to have a linear scale of sound measurement. Its a bit miss leading that a gunshot can be 120-140, but the firing pin of an empty gun can hit 100ish. That's a convoluted system that the layman can't easily grasp.
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