San Francisco officials brand NRA a ‘domestic terrorist organization’

rickyrick · September 4, 2019, 09:39 AM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san...t-organization
Being that the NRA is law abiding gun owners, you are all terrorists.
Although I haven’t seen NRA members using violence for political gain like I have antifa

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The San Francisco Board of Supervisors has passed a resolution declaring the National Rifle Association a “domestic terrorist organization” and urged the federal government to do the same – the latest escalation in the heated rhetoric from Democrats regarding the NRA in the wake of several deadly mass shootings.

JERRYS. · September 4, 2019, 12:25 PM

it figures that a democrat stronghold would stand against the organization [the NRA] that helped arm black people against the KKK.

natman · September 4, 2019, 12:57 PM

Next all its members will be on the No-fly and Terrorist Watch list.

**Tom Servo** · September 4, 2019, 01:00 PM

Heck, there's been a billboard on I-75 south of Dayton saying that for a couple of years now.

It's a lie. It's a ridiculous one, at that. And it's indicative of just how dishonest and craven our political discourse has become.

TrueBlue711 · September 4, 2019, 01:28 PM

Soooo what does that do exactly? Will wearing an NRA hat in that city be grounds to be arrested?

MTT TL · September 4, 2019, 01:40 PM

I guess they can no longer allow their policemen who are members of the NRA serve. City judges, lawyers, really all employees.

If that isn't ripe pickings for a huge class action civil rights laws suit I don't know what is.

Although lately I can almost see the argument. The NRA turned its back on us so turn about is fair play.

**4V50 Gary** · September 4, 2019, 01:44 PM

Yet Anarchist, Antifa, Bicycle Coalition (the latter with their critical mass demonstration) are not.

MTT TL · September 4, 2019, 02:08 PM

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Yet Anarchist, Antifa, Bicycle Coalition (the latter with their critical mass demonstration) are not.

Well, calling people Nazi's has really been passé since 2001.

Fascist just has a confusing ring about it, especially when someone accused is militarily inept. Anarchists want socialism which is which is beyond my understanding, Anti-fascists want to take military like action and arm themselves... I hear the only person talking about love thy brother is the preacher, and that nobody is interesting learning except the teacher. Racist works most of the time but they found out with JD Vance and David Webb they have to fact check first to avoid those kind of embarrassing mistakes.

But terrorist? Everyone can hate on a terrorist. Those guys are just as bad as Nazis.

Erno86 · September 4, 2019, 02:19 PM

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

**Aguila Blanca** · September 4, 2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueBlue711

Soooo what does that do exactly? Will wearing an NRA hat in that city be grounds to be arrested?

Their next step will be to try to blacklist anyone having ties to the NRA from providing any services to the city.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san...t-organization

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The document resolves to assess the relationships that those who do business with the city have with the group and says “the City and County of San Francisco should take every reasonable step to limit those entities who do business with the City and County of San Francisco from doing business with this domestic terrorist organization.”

I thought San Francisco (or some other liberal city?) had already tried doing this a couple of years ago. Am I mis-remembering (again)?

MTT TL · September 4, 2019, 02:57 PM

I tired in vain to find the actual resolution but they have not posted it yet.

raimius · September 4, 2019, 04:32 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/nra-gun-con...-1457581?amp=1

The city decided to tar the NRA as a domestic terrorist organization, but the resolution is non-binding.
The question I have, is how far does a government organization have to go before an organization can sue on first amendment grounds or discrimination under color of law?

rickyrick · September 4, 2019, 05:13 PM

Well being a member of a domestic terrorist organization might qualify a person for Red Flag confiscation.

TXAZ · September 4, 2019, 06:38 PM

Can TFL declare San Francisco a terrorist organization?

zukiphile · September 4, 2019, 06:43 PM

The text of the resolution.

https://sfgov.legistar.com/View.ashx...D-287F02BECCCA

**Aguila Blanca** · September 4, 2019, 08:48 PM

Just ... WOW!

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WHEREAS, The National Rifle Association musters its considerable wealth and
organizational strength to promote gun ownership and incite gun owners to acts of violence,

Can a not-for-profit sue a municipality for libel? (Or is a resolution such as this slander?)

rickyrick · September 4, 2019, 08:55 PM

Everything that’s not leftist progressive has been claimed to have been inciting violence.

The rhetoric has become very dangerous. I see people of influence inciting violence and it’s not the NRA.

Prof Young · September 4, 2019, 09:09 PM

I've spent time in SF and I am a first hand witness to . . . there is human poop on the streets, syringes in the gutter, crack cocaine in the litter and they let the "Man Boy Love Association" use the public library meeting rooms. They put so many gun regulations on the books that the last legal gun store in SF closed a few years ago. On one street there is a plaque in the sidewalk celebrating the site of the first full length porn movie shown in the states. HOW CAN ANYONE TAKE ANYTHING SF DOES SERIOUSLY?

Okay, Yeah I know this is barely about guns . . . sorry.

Life is good.
Prof Young

Wagonman · September 4, 2019, 09:21 PM

That's exactly my reading of the endgame.

mehavey · September 4, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aguila

Just ... WOW!

As before, Aguila, it is become a brainless, soulless herd of the walking dead.
...that mob I mentioned before.

There is no reasoning with it.

.

rickyrick · September 5, 2019, 12:10 AM

I’m sure other cities will follow, especially along I5, many won’t want to be outdone. Piles of trash, needles and human waste but don’t fear straws are banned. When are we going to wake up and stop letting the other side accuse us of things in which we are innocent.

**44 AMP** · September 5, 2019, 12:17 AM

I wonder, can the SF Board of Supervisors provide any proof that the NRA has ever, in a history going back to 1871, incited any one to acts of violence??

I don't recall the NRA ever advocating the breaking of any law, and that includes civil disobedience.

Considering the "sanctuary city" status they claim, I don't think the same can be said about the SF city Board of Supervisors.

Aguila, I think what you are remembering is a discussion we had a while ago about the city of LA wanting to know if anyone doing business with the city was also doing business with the NRA.

**Aguila Blanca** · September 5, 2019, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 44 AMP

Aguila, I think what you are remembering is a discussion we had a while ago about the city of LA wanting to know if anyone doing business with the city was also doing business with the NRA.

Yes, I looked it up. That's exactly what I was remembering. IIRC it was about a year ago.

Bartholomew Roberts · September 5, 2019, 05:36 AM

I like the new Left’s wholesale return to their Jacobin roots.

Free speech is now the equivalent of violence, which of course justifies your use of actual violence against all those people trying to “violently” share ideas you don’t want to be heard.

MTT TL · September 5, 2019, 06:28 AM

The NRA does incite people to acts of violence.

Much of their focus is on personal protection which often times involves an act of violence.

September 4, 2019, 12:57 PM	#3
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,607	Next all its members will be on the No-fly and Terrorist Watch list. __________________ Time Travelers' Wisdom: Never Do Yesterday What Should Be Done Tomorrow. If At Last You Do Succeed, Never Try Again.

September 4, 2019, 01:00 PM	#4
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Heck, there's been a billboard on I-75 south of Dayton saying that for a couple of years now. It's a lie. It's a ridiculous one, at that. And it's indicative of just how dishonest and craven our political discourse has become. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

September 4, 2019, 01:40 PM	#6
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	I guess they can no longer allow their policemen who are members of the NRA serve. City judges, lawyers, really all employees. If that isn't ripe pickings for a huge class action civil rights laws suit I don't know what is. Although lately I can almost see the argument. The NRA turned its back on us so turn about is fair play. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

September 4, 2019, 01:44 PM	#7
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	Yet Anarchist, Antifa, Bicycle Coalition (the latter with their critical mass demonstration) are not. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

September 4, 2019, 02:19 PM	#9
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell

September 4, 2019, 12:25 PM	#2
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	it figures that a democrat stronghold would stand against the organization [the NRA] that helped arm black people against the KKK.

September 4, 2019, 01:28 PM	#5
TrueBlue711 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2011 Posts: 489	Soooo what does that do exactly? Will wearing an NRA hat in that city be grounds to be arrested?

September 4, 2019, 02:57 PM	#11
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	I tired in vain to find the actual resolution but they have not posted it yet. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

September 4, 2019, 04:32 PM	#12
raimius Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2008 Posts: 2,199	When does city government discrimination rise to actionable levels? https://www.newsweek.com/nra-gun-con...-1457581?amp=1 The city decided to tar the NRA as a domestic terrorist organization, but the resolution is non-binding. The question I have, is how far does a government organization have to go before an organization can sue on first amendment grounds or discrimination under color of law?

September 4, 2019, 05:13 PM	#13
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Well being a member of a domestic terrorist organization might qualify a person for Red Flag confiscation.

September 4, 2019, 06:38 PM	#14
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Can TFL declare San Francisco a terrorist organization? __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

September 4, 2019, 06:43 PM	#15
zukiphile Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2005 Posts: 4,453	The text of the resolution. https://sfgov.legistar.com/View.ashx...D-287F02BECCCA __________________ http://www.npboards.com/index.php

September 4, 2019, 08:55 PM	#17
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	Everything that’s not leftist progressive has been claimed to have been inciting violence. The rhetoric has become very dangerous. I see people of influence inciting violence and it’s not the NRA.

September 4, 2019, 09:09 PM	#18
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	San Francisco is . . . a joke. I've spent time in SF and I am a first hand witness to . . . there is human poop on the streets, syringes in the gutter, crack cocaine in the litter and they let the "Man Boy Love Association" use the public library meeting rooms. They put so many gun regulations on the books that the last legal gun store in SF closed a few years ago. On one street there is a plaque in the sidewalk celebrating the site of the first full length porn movie shown in the states. HOW CAN ANYONE TAKE ANYTHING SF DOES SERIOUSLY? Okay, Yeah I know this is barely about guns . . . sorry. Life is good. Prof Young Last edited by Prof Young; September 5, 2019 at 10:51 AM.

September 4, 2019, 09:21 PM	#19
Wagonman Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,014	That's exactly my reading of the endgame.

September 5, 2019, 12:10 AM	#21
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	I’m sure other cities will follow, especially along I5, many won’t want to be outdone. Piles of trash, needles and human waste but don’t fear straws are banned. When are we going to wake up and stop letting the other side accuse us of things in which we are innocent.

September 5, 2019, 12:17 AM	#22
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,832	I wonder, can the SF Board of Supervisors provide any proof that the NRA has ever, in a history going back to 1871, incited any one to acts of violence?? I don't recall the NRA ever advocating the breaking of any law, and that includes civil disobedience. Considering the "sanctuary city" status they claim, I don't think the same can be said about the SF city Board of Supervisors. Aguila, I think what you are remembering is a discussion we had a while ago about the city of LA wanting to know if anyone doing business with the city was also doing business with the NRA. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

September 5, 2019, 05:36 AM	#24
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	I like the new Left’s wholesale return to their Jacobin roots. Free speech is now the equivalent of violence, which of course justifies your use of actual violence against all those people trying to “violently” share ideas you don’t want to be heard.

September 5, 2019, 06:28 AM	#25
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	The NRA does incite people to acts of violence. Much of their focus is on personal protection which often times involves an act of violence. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.