Stevens Tip-up pocket model .22

VeritasVincit · August 29, 2013, 03:43 PM

Alright, I've been looking. Model 41, 43, diamond target model? Anyone know anything about these? I've got three different variations and I'll post all of them. It looks like there were quite a few different models based around a similar design. I would love to learn about the specifics and be able to differentiate between all of them.

The smallest with the spur trigger is serial number 1662.
The one with the brass butt cap is number 39202.
The one with the heavy patina is 50159.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

**Mike Irwin** · August 30, 2013, 10:41 AM

I have one exactly like the one in your second picture.

Unfortunately, I really don't know that much about them. Your best bet would probably to locate a copy of the Flayderman's guide for some basic information on when they were made and how much they're worth.

Jim Watson · August 30, 2013, 01:08 PM

I have Flayderman's book.
Your spur trigger Stevens looks like a No 43 Diamond, can't tell whether it is a first issue 1886-1896 or second issue 1896-1916.

The two with trigger guards are close to the No 35 but not identical. Sights and details of the butt don't match Flayderman's picture.

VeritasVincit · August 30, 2013, 01:32 PM

Thanks for the replies! That gives me something to plug into Google at least.

James K · August 30, 2013, 03:03 PM

Those guns are a bit of a nightmare for collectors, as there were different models and variations within the models, as well as options in sights and barrel length.

I think your # 1, Picture 2989, serial 39202 is a Stevens Offhand Target, No.35. They made about 50,000, 1907-1916

I think your # 2, Picture 3011, serial 1662 is a Stevens Diamond No. 43, First Issue; some 25,000 were made 1886-1896.

And I think your # 3, Picture 3005, serial 50159 is a later No. 35 with out the butt cap.

Jim

VeritasVincit · August 30, 2013, 07:04 PM

Wow, thank you Jim. I'm interested in how you learned all this. I'm an aspiring collector of all things, though for now I'm only well versed in some older Smiths. Thanks!

James K · August 30, 2013, 10:17 PM

I got most of it from Flaydermans, but also from a couple of other books. The only Stevens single shot I have is a Model 10 which, of course, is a totally different gun.

When I first got into collecting, an old timer and good friend (gone now, alas) gave me a good piece of advice - every time you buy a gun, buy a book. Not necessarily a book about that gun, but a decent quality gun book. (At that time, there weren't many; we are blessed today with a tremendous number of high quality books whose price reflects the quality.) Skip the umteenth regurgitation of old stories and nonsense put out by the gunzines, and get the best you can possibly afford that arose from original research.

Jim

August 30, 2013, 10:41 AM	#2
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,379	I have one exactly like the one in your second picture. Unfortunately, I really don't know that much about them. Your best bet would probably to locate a copy of the Flayderman's guide for some basic information on when they were made and how much they're worth. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

August 30, 2013, 01:32 PM	#4
VeritasVincit Junior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: NE Washington Posts: 7	Stevens Tip-up pocket model .22 Thanks for the replies! That gives me something to plug into Google at least.

August 30, 2013, 07:04 PM	#6
VeritasVincit Junior Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: NE Washington Posts: 7	Stevens Tip-up pocket model .22 Wow, thank you Jim. I'm interested in how you learned all this. I'm an aspiring collector of all things, though for now I'm only well versed in some older Smiths. Thanks!

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August 30, 2013, 01:08 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,528	I have Flayderman's book. Your spur trigger Stevens looks like a No 43 Diamond, can't tell whether it is a first issue 1886-1896 or second issue 1896-1916. The two with trigger guards are close to the No 35 but not identical. Sights and details of the butt don't match Flayderman's picture.

August 30, 2013, 03:03 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Those guns are a bit of a nightmare for collectors, as there were different models and variations within the models, as well as options in sights and barrel length. I think your # 1, Picture 2989, serial 39202 is a Stevens Offhand Target, No.35. They made about 50,000, 1907-1916 I think your # 2, Picture 3011, serial 1662 is a Stevens Diamond No. 43, First Issue; some 25,000 were made 1886-1896. And I think your # 3, Picture 3005, serial 50159 is a later No. 35 with out the butt cap. Jim

August 30, 2013, 10:17 PM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I got most of it from Flaydermans, but also from a couple of other books. The only Stevens single shot I have is a Model 10 which, of course, is a totally different gun. When I first got into collecting, an old timer and good friend (gone now, alas) gave me a good piece of advice - every time you buy a gun, buy a book. Not necessarily a book about that gun, but a decent quality gun book. (At that time, there weren't many; we are blessed today with a tremendous number of high quality books whose price reflects the quality.) Skip the umteenth regurgitation of old stories and nonsense put out by the gunzines, and get the best you can possibly afford that arose from original research. Jim