WTB - Nickel Plated Brass

HunterWarrior · October 27, 2001, 10:02 PM

Does anyone here have a source for once fired nickel plated brass?

Looking for:

40 S&W
44 Mag
45 ACP
45 LC
223
22-250
250 Savage
25-06
308
45-70

Thanks HW

maxwayne · October 28, 2001, 08:00 PM

Starline is advertising new nickel plated.

Timothy · October 28, 2001, 08:22 PM

Federal has nickel in several cal. I was pleased

HunterWarrior · October 28, 2001, 08:25 PM

I'm well aware of where to get new nickel plated brass.

Thanks

HW

Ben Shepherd · November 1, 2001, 01:32 PM

Do you have a local gun range? If so they may have some. The one I shoot at has once-fired quite often, but caliber choice is usually spotty, i.e.: tons of 44mag one week, none for the next month. That's how I get my brass for mild target loads.
Sorry I can't tell you of a major store chain that carries it.

Bogie · November 1, 2001, 04:44 PM

Don't reload nickel plated for use in perfectly good rifles - It's bad for the bore...

Ben Shepherd · November 1, 2001, 06:04 PM

Bogie, please explain.
(Sorry, not trying to get off subject, but I'm very curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.)

Bogie · November 2, 2001, 12:43 AM

Well, nickel is harder than brass, etc., and some small particles tend to come off... And go down the bore at great speed...

It's also easier to see imperfections with "naked" brass. Annealing is easier, etc... And don't even think about neck turning plated brass...

NoSweat · November 2, 2001, 01:10 AM

My experience with nickel plated brass is that is much more prone to splitting than bare brass. For this reason, I avoid it.
I have noticed this mostly in the 38 special ( loaded with 148 gr HBWC and 2.8 gr of Bullseye) By no means a damaging load.

I have also noticed it in my 44 mag. I don't have any plated rifle brass.

I am not sure of the reason. Possibly hydrogen embrittlement if it was electroplated. Electroless plating should avoid this problem.

The other potential cause of splitting is ammonia in the cleaning or tumbling of brass. Brass is subject to intergranular corrosion, and subsequent cracking in the presence of ammonia.

If you are really set on nickel plated, check to see if there is a plater in your area who does electroless nickel plating. Ask him how much to plate the brass. Use a plating thichness of .00005in when requesting a quote. The will charge you based on surface area and number of pieces. It's best to do it all at once, as setup charges will affect the cost.

Redneck2 · November 2, 2001, 08:01 AM

I have no personal experience, but I've read that nickle can scratch your dies...Go to Varmint Al's website...he discusses nickel cases (and their drawbacks) at length.

It's a free country and your guns, but I won't take nickel cases free.

Bottom Gun · November 2, 2001, 09:12 AM

I agree that nickel plated pistol brass is more brittle and does not last as long before it splits.
I don't use nickel plated brass in my rifles. I don't trust it.

Gewehr98 · November 2, 2001, 10:50 AM

is all I use for my Remington Rolling Block blackpowder .45-70 loads. They go straight from firing right into a jug of hot soapy water, and the nickel plating does a great job of resisting the corrosive effects of blackpowder residue. After tumbling, they come out looking perfect, even inside the cases.

I also use them for 9mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, and .45 ACP, until the brass starts to show through the plating, then they're discarded.

October 27, 2001, 10:02 PM	#1
HunterWarrior Member Join Date: January 3, 2001 Posts: 57	WTB - Nickel Plated Brass Does anyone here have a source for once fired nickel plated brass? Looking for: 40 S&W 44 Mag 45 ACP 45 LC 223 22-250 250 Savage 25-06 308 45-70 Thanks HW

October 28, 2001, 08:22 PM	#3
Timothy Member Join Date: November 26, 2000 Posts: 97	Federal has nickel in several cal. I was pleased __________________ "There ain't no use runnin' if you're on the wrong road."

October 28, 2001, 08:25 PM	#4
HunterWarrior Member Join Date: January 3, 2001 Posts: 57	Need once fired not new! I'm well aware of where to get new nickel plated brass. Thanks HW

November 1, 2001, 01:32 PM	#5
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	Do you have a local gun range? If so they may have some. The one I shoot at has once-fired quite often, but caliber choice is usually spotty, i.e.: tons of 44mag one week, none for the next month. That's how I get my brass for mild target loads. Sorry I can't tell you of a major store chain that carries it. __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

November 1, 2001, 04:44 PM	#6
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Don't reload nickel plated for use in perfectly good rifles - It's bad for the bore... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

October 28, 2001, 08:00 PM	#2
maxwayne Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2001 Posts: 402	Starline is advertising new nickel plated.

November 1, 2001, 06:04 PM	#7
Ben Shepherd Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 1,462	Bogie, please explain. (Sorry, not trying to get off subject, but I'm very curious as to the reasoning behind the statement.) __________________ From my cold dead hands......... NRA certified rifle, pistol and shotgun instructor. Hunter education instructor

November 2, 2001, 12:43 AM	#8
Bogie Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2000 Location: Job hunting on the road... Posts: 3,827	Well, nickel is harder than brass, etc., and some small particles tend to come off... And go down the bore at great speed... It's also easier to see imperfections with "naked" brass. Annealing is easier, etc... And don't even think about neck turning plated brass... __________________ Job hunting, but helping a friend out at www.vikingmachineusa.com - and learning the finer aspects of becoming a precision machinist. And making the world's greatest bottle openers!

November 2, 2001, 01:10 AM	#9
NoSweat Member Join Date: July 23, 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 16	My experience with nickel plated brass is that is much more prone to splitting than bare brass. For this reason, I avoid it. I have noticed this mostly in the 38 special ( loaded with 148 gr HBWC and 2.8 gr of Bullseye) By no means a damaging load. I have also noticed it in my 44 mag. I don't have any plated rifle brass. I am not sure of the reason. Possibly hydrogen embrittlement if it was electroplated. Electroless plating should avoid this problem. The other potential cause of splitting is ammonia in the cleaning or tumbling of brass. Brass is subject to intergranular corrosion, and subsequent cracking in the presence of ammonia. If you are really set on nickel plated, check to see if there is a plater in your area who does electroless nickel plating. Ask him how much to plate the brass. Use a plating thichness of .00005in when requesting a quote. The will charge you based on surface area and number of pieces. It's best to do it all at once, as setup charges will affect the cost.

November 2, 2001, 08:01 AM	#10
Redneck2 Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2000 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 519	I have no personal experience, but I've read that nickle can scratch your dies...Go to Varmint Al's website...he discusses nickel cases (and their drawbacks) at length. It's a free country and your guns, but I won't take nickel cases free.

November 2, 2001, 09:12 AM	#11
Bottom Gun Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1998 Location: Arizona Territory Posts: 1,092	I agree that nickel plated pistol brass is more brittle and does not last as long before it splits. I don't use nickel plated brass in my rifles. I don't trust it.

November 2, 2001, 10:50 AM	#12
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	Nickel plated brass is all I use for my Remington Rolling Block blackpowder .45-70 loads. They go straight from firing right into a jug of hot soapy water, and the nickel plating does a great job of resisting the corrosive effects of blackpowder residue. After tumbling, they come out looking perfect, even inside the cases. I also use them for 9mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, and .45 ACP, until the brass starts to show through the plating, then they're discarded. __________________ "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Neural Misfires

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