My collection thus far :D

JarYetz · May 14, 2009, 07:36 PM

Well, you guys were right. I got one and then I had to get another. As if you guys have never seen either of these before...I present to you, my new non-historic 1851 Navy 44 and 1858 Remmie 44.

Yay me!

So far I've shot the Remmie, and it was by far the coolest gun firing experience I've had. That night, I went and ordered the 1851 Navy.

CaptainCrossman · May 14, 2009, 08:06 PM

to be honest, all ya really need it a Rem '58. Anything after that is icing and gravy. Have fun- nice guns ! And my hat's off to you, for buying a steel frame Colt.

JarYetz · May 14, 2009, 08:12 PM

I was surprised by the feel of the Colt actually. I like the way it fits my hand a lot better than the Remington, and for some reason it feels like its built a lot tighter, too. I can't wait to shoot em both side by side.

ClemBert · May 14, 2009, 09:38 PM

Cool...another struck by the holly black disease!

BTW, both Piettas? Gotta get me a 1862 Pocket Police or an 1851 Navy next.

Is the backstrap and trigger guard plated nickle on that 1851?

Fingers McGee · May 15, 2009, 12:04 AM

It looks like one of the Civilian Models from Cabelas.

JarYetz · May 15, 2009, 05:10 AM

They are both Piettas.

Fingers is correct, its the Civilian model from Cabelas.

Cabelas claims that the backstrap and trigger guard are "Silver-plated" but I actually wanted to ask the community what they thought about that. Do they mean silver as in the metal, or silver as in the color?

Dingoboyx · May 15, 2009, 05:18 AM

Now all you need is a nics stainless ROA

mykeal · May 15, 2009, 06:02 AM

Silver as in nickel (the color).

Fingers McGee · May 15, 2009, 12:11 PM

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Do they mean silver as in the metal, or silver as in the color?

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Silver as in nickel (the color).

Well.............. I'm not too sure. I had a pair of them that the BS/TG tarnished just like real honest to gosh silver. After a years worth of shooting SASS matches, they were turning a nice blue/black.

mykeal · May 15, 2009, 04:12 PM

Could be.

I had one that I'm sure was nickel, not silver, plated. May have been done by a previous owner, since I've not seen a reference to a nickel plated BS/TG from the factory.

Don't have it any more. It had been badly treated and I gave it to a friend as a parts gun several years ago.

madcratebuilder · May 15, 2009, 10:48 PM

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Cabelas claims that the backstrap and trigger guard are "Silver-plated" but I actually wanted to ask the community what they thought about that. Do they mean silver as in the metal, or silver as in the color?

I was under the impression that most revolvers that have a 'silver' BS/TG is actually 'German Silver". German silver has a color resembling silver, but is an alloy of primarily copper, nickel and zinc. I have seen the term used by many gun makers in antique ads.

JarYetz · May 16, 2009, 03:20 PM

Added another 1858 Remmie today! Took in the expired coupon and explained that since they didn't have any in stock during the time of the spring sale, I'd be willing to purchase one now if they gave me that price ($169.99). Sure enough, they did.

SamStafford · May 16, 2009, 03:32 PM

Love those Remingtons. I have 2 of them. 1 has a R&D cylinder .45LC in it.

Gaucho Gringo · May 16, 2009, 05:59 PM

Looks like your family of cap & ball revolvers is growing nicely. I also started with the same guns you did or should I say you started with the same guns I did. I think the first gun any newbe should buy is an 1858 Remington, just my personal opinion. It is such an easy gun to learn on. Now I am looking to buy an 1863 Pocket Remington, 1862 Pocket Navy, 1849 Baby Dragoon, 1851 Navy in .36, 1858 Remington Navy and a Colt Walker. I am also looking for conversion cylinders for my guns. Not in the order listed as I am trying to buy used to save a few bucks. I feel confident enough after 4 or 5 years of black powder experience to buy used guns even though I have been shooting for 51 years now.

Fingers McGee · May 16, 2009, 10:54 PM

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I was under the impression that most revolvers that have a 'silver' BS/TG is actually 'German Silver". German silver has a color resembling silver, but is an alloy of primarily copper, nickel and zinc. I have seen the term used by many gun makers in antique ads.

Could be; but, does German Silver tarnish? The backstraps of my Navy Arms Frontiersman '51 Navies are silver (color) and have not tarnish a bit in 3 years. Are they Nickel plated or German Silver?

mykeal · May 17, 2009, 06:07 AM

German silver does not polish bright and shiny like silver or nickel. It does not tarnish but it can become duller over time. If your backstrap is shiny like polished silver and does not tarnish it is likely nickel plated.

madcratebuilder · May 17, 2009, 08:05 AM

I looked through my Colt 2nd and 3rd gen books and I found the term 'German Silver' used on the front sights of several models and the term 'Silver" for the back straps and trigger guards.

How quickly well silver plate tarnish? My revolvers well polish up to a nice shine but seen to get a dull look after one or two trips to the range, but I don't see any sign of them tarnishing.

Fingers McGee · May 17, 2009, 07:14 PM

The area in front of the loop on the trigger guard on my '61 Navies is turning blue/black after about 6 months of CAS matches. One of my F series 2nd Gens made in 1979 has a totally black backstrap & trigger guard from sitting in the box for 30 years. In fact, the guy I bought it from thought it was blued instead of silver. A couple others have some tarnishing in spots.

GLADIO · May 18, 2009, 05:48 AM

sweet collection, or should i say
sweet family!!!

[edit] the middle 1858 grips look like having some matte look to them instead of the glossy stock finish...
or is it just the pic?

JarYetz · May 18, 2009, 06:36 AM

The finish on them is the same, but the middle grip actual wood grain/appearence is nowhere near as nice as the top one, and it actually gives them a flatter look.

noelf2 · May 18, 2009, 08:59 AM

What do you need two remmies for? OK, just funnin, I have two of them also and both pietta. One of mine is the case hardened steel frame and the other is just like yours but a target model from Cabelas. I put an R&D cylinder in the target model.

JarYetz · May 18, 2009, 10:03 AM

I think to do CAS competition you need two pistols, so I got 2 of the same remmies.

May 15, 2009, 12:04 AM	#5
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	It looks like one of the Civilian Models from Cabelas. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

May 15, 2009, 05:18 AM	#7
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	Nice guns Jaryetz Now all you need is a nics stainless ROA __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

May 16, 2009, 05:59 PM	#14
Gaucho Gringo Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 366	Looks like your family of cap & ball revolvers is growing nicely. I also started with the same guns you did or should I say you started with the same guns I did. I think the first gun any newbe should buy is an 1858 Remington, just my personal opinion. It is such an easy gun to learn on. Now I am looking to buy an 1863 Pocket Remington, 1862 Pocket Navy, 1849 Baby Dragoon, 1851 Navy in .36, 1858 Remington Navy and a Colt Walker. I am also looking for conversion cylinders for my guns. Not in the order listed as I am trying to buy used to save a few bucks. I feel confident enough after 4 or 5 years of black powder experience to buy used guns even though I have been shooting for 51 years now. __________________ 357 Taurus Gaucho, 22 Heritage RR, 2-Pietta 1858 44 NMA Remingtons, Pietta, Euroarms & ASM 36 1851 Navies, 31 Uberti 1849, 12 ga H&R Topper, 16 Ga Western Field, 43 Spanish Remington Rolling Block, 44 ASM Colt Walker, High Point C9 9mm, Winchester 1906 22, Rossi 62 22 rifle, Uberti 1860, H&A & IJ 32 S&W BreakTop, 36 Euroarms 1858, 32 H&R 04, 22mag NAA SS BP revolver, .44 Rodgers & Spencer, IJ 38 S&W BreakTop, IJ 22 Sealed 8

May 17, 2009, 07:14 PM	#18
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	The area in front of the loop on the trigger guard on my '61 Navies is turning blue/black after about 6 months of CAS matches. One of my F series 2nd Gens made in 1979 has a totally black backstrap & trigger guard from sitting in the box for 30 years. In fact, the guy I bought it from thought it was blued instead of silver. A couple others have some tarnishing in spots. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

May 18, 2009, 05:48 AM	#19
GLADIO Member Join Date: May 9, 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 24	sweet collection, or should i say sweet family!!! [edit] the middle 1858 grips look like having some matte look to them instead of the glossy stock finish... or is it just the pic? Last edited by GLADIO; May 18, 2009 at 06:11 AM.

May 14, 2009, 08:06 PM	#2
CaptainCrossman Junior member Join Date: April 2, 2009 Posts: 381	to be honest, all ya really need it a Rem '58. Anything after that is icing and gravy. Have fun- nice guns ! And my hat's off to you, for buying a steel frame Colt.

May 14, 2009, 08:12 PM	#3
JarYetz Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 73	I was surprised by the feel of the Colt actually. I like the way it fits my hand a lot better than the Remington, and for some reason it feels like its built a lot tighter, too. I can't wait to shoot em both side by side.

May 14, 2009, 09:38 PM	#4
ClemBert Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 936	Cool...another struck by the holly black disease! BTW, both Piettas? Gotta get me a 1862 Pocket Police or an 1851 Navy next. Is the backstrap and trigger guard plated nickle on that 1851?

May 15, 2009, 05:10 AM	#6
JarYetz Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 73	They are both Piettas. Fingers is correct, its the Civilian model from Cabelas. Cabelas claims that the backstrap and trigger guard are "Silver-plated" but I actually wanted to ask the community what they thought about that. Do they mean silver as in the metal, or silver as in the color?

May 15, 2009, 06:02 AM	#8
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Silver as in nickel (the color).

May 15, 2009, 04:12 PM	#10
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Could be. I had one that I'm sure was nickel, not silver, plated. May have been done by a previous owner, since I've not seen a reference to a nickel plated BS/TG from the factory. Don't have it any more. It had been badly treated and I gave it to a friend as a parts gun several years ago.

May 16, 2009, 03:32 PM	#13
SamStafford Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2009 Location: Portageville, MO. 63873 Posts: 162	Love those Remingtons. I have 2 of them. 1 has a R&D cylinder .45LC in it.

May 17, 2009, 06:07 AM	#16
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	German silver does not polish bright and shiny like silver or nickel. It does not tarnish but it can become duller over time. If your backstrap is shiny like polished silver and does not tarnish it is likely nickel plated.

May 17, 2009, 08:05 AM	#17
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	I looked through my Colt 2nd and 3rd gen books and I found the term 'German Silver' used on the front sights of several models and the term 'Silver" for the back straps and trigger guards. How quickly well silver plate tarnish? My revolvers well polish up to a nice shine but seen to get a dull look after one or two trips to the range, but I don't see any sign of them tarnishing.

May 18, 2009, 06:36 AM	#20
JarYetz Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 73	The finish on them is the same, but the middle grip actual wood grain/appearence is nowhere near as nice as the top one, and it actually gives them a flatter look.

May 18, 2009, 08:59 AM	#21
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	What do you need two remmies for? OK, just funnin, I have two of them also and both pietta. One of mine is the case hardened steel frame and the other is just like yours but a target model from Cabelas. I put an R&D cylinder in the target model. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

May 18, 2009, 10:03 AM	#22
JarYetz Member Join Date: April 26, 2009 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 73	I think to do CAS competition you need two pistols, so I got 2 of the same remmies.