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Old July 2, 2004, 06:31 PM   #1
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Walther PP Question

I have just inherited a Walther PP from my father. I am trying to find out more about the gun and what it may be worth. On one side of the gun are the words 'Waftenfabrik Walther, Zella-Mehlis (Thur) , Walther's Patent Cal 7.65mm Mod PP' and the Walther banner. On the other side in two places (on the barrel and below it on the casing around the barrel) are a small N with a crown on top of it. The serial number is 1506XXP. I understand the Zella-Mehlis is the location of the original manufacturing plant before and during WWII, but I have no idea what year this gun was made.

The gun has some wear around the end of the barrel, but otherwise is in pretty good shape. It has been sitting unused in a leather holster for the last 30 plus years. There are also two bullet cartridges both marked Walther. One cartridge fits into the holster. The holster is marked D.R.G.(or C) M with a wreath and crossed rifles over Ak(or x)ah. I would like to know what year the gun was made, any other interesting facts, and a ballpark figure on the gun's worth. Thank you for any help you can give me concerning this gun.
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Old July 3, 2004, 12:20 AM   #2
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It is difficult to determine tha value of a gun without seeing it, and being able to handle the gun. Book value, Gun Traders Guide, shows $795.00

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Old July 3, 2004, 06:12 AM   #3
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Crown N proofmarks mean it was made sometime between introduction in 1929 and Nazification in 1939. I don't know if there are any serial number records to tie it down closer than that. We were, after all, bombing gun factories soon after that date and the Communists took over that area of Germany at war's end.

Akah is Albrecht Kind, a big German sporting goods distributor, still in business. D.R.G.M. is German equivalent of U.S. Pat. Office.

"Bullet cartridges marked Walther?" Do you perhaps mean magazines?
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Old July 3, 2004, 01:21 PM   #4
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Yes, I mean magazines. Thank you!!
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Old August 13, 2004, 01:28 PM   #5
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The P sufix was used starting in April of 1938 at serial number 100001P. The Crown/N proof was used until April of 1940.

So yours was made sometime between these two dates. I suspect around late '38 or early '39 becacue of the amount of increased production during this time for the war effort.
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