Gettysburg 1851 Navy.

Oquirrh · September 3, 2008, 03:12 PM

I came across an Euro Arms Navy colt. Steel frame. It apparently had some kind of goldish electro-coating on it, which has worn and looks like hell.

It is marked "Gettysburg Commemorative" on the barrel. (So I'm sure it's worth tens of dollars as a collectable ;-)

I'm thinking of buying it, if I can get the price down. I could care less about the Gettysburg thing and would probably remove the rest of the "gold" plating.

Did Euro Arms make good revolvers?

GNLaFrance · September 3, 2008, 05:13 PM

The only Euroarms I've ever handled was a Remington New Model Army .44 and it was fine, good action and trigger. I never got to fire it, sold it off and, of course, I'm sorry I did now, but that's another story.

I'd ask for a three-day inspection period and return for price minus shipping. Of course you shouldn't fire it or disassemble it during that time.

mykeal · September 3, 2008, 09:20 PM

I own two Euroarms Rogers & Spencer revolvers and one Euroarms 1860 Colt Army revolver, and all three are fine guns. One of the Rogers and Spencers was one of the first guns I bought nearly 30 years ago (date code 1979) and it's in excellent shape. The other (date code 1994) I bought used about 4 years ago and it's also in good shape. The Colt has a date code of 1998, also bought used, in excellent shape.

They come close to Uberti quality in terms of fit and finish; the Colt is very nice, plus has a very smooth action. The R&S's are a bit less in terms of finish and the actions are a little rough. I'd answer your question (Did Euroarms make good revolvers), "Yes".

Fingers McGee · September 4, 2008, 11:51 AM

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They come close to Uberti quality in terms of fit and finish; the Colt is very nice, plus has a very smooth action. The R&S's are a bit less in terms of finish and the actions are a little rough. I'd answer your question (Did Euroarms make good revolvers), "Yes".

I've had a few Euroarms C&Bs (Rogers & Spencers and 51 Navies) in the past and have found them to be very good revolvers.

Oquirrh · September 4, 2008, 03:47 PM

The pistol is in a pawn shop, 'as is." But obviously, I can examine it closely.
My problem is that they believe the Gettysburg markings make it some kind of museum piece. It's priced way high, $325. Like I said before it looks like hell because the gold finish is coming off. I've got to take along a magnet to make sure the frame is steel under the crude and worn gold.

Sometimes the offer of a couple crisp Ulysses S. Grants helps in bargaining.

Fingers McGee · September 5, 2008, 10:14 AM

Might be this one ?:
The Gettysburg 1863 Revolver was manufactured by Uberti for America Remembers in 1993. From the 5th Edition Blue Book of Modern BP arms:
"The Gettysburg 1863 revolver - .44 cal perc., 1860 Army commemorating the July 1863 battle. This model features a 24 kt gold battle scene surrounding the rebated cylinder. The left side of the barrel bears the legend "GETTYSBURG PENNSYLVANIA JULY 1863". On the right side is an inscription from lLincoln's Gettysburg Address, "We here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain". The backstrap, trigger guard and front sight blade are 24kt. gold plated. A french fit solid wlnut display case contains the revolver and both Union and Confederate belt buckles in solid brass, and a parchment replica of the Gettysburg Address. Edition limited to 1863."

The original issue price was $1395. There is one on Auction Arms NIB listed for $1100. http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=8782567

Without the cases and acessories, and in the shape you describe, $325 is probably a little high.

Oquirrh · September 5, 2008, 06:48 PM

Don't think it is the same revolver. The one I looked at is -- unless my memory is totally shot -- a Navy '51 by Euro-Arms and .36 cal. Also it was in the original, but tattered, cardboard box with a hole where a powder flask used to be.

I'll try to swing by and take a second look this weekend.

Fingers McGee · September 5, 2008, 07:06 PM

Euroarms made a number of 'private party' commemoratives in the 80s. I have Jefferson Davis Commemorative that was commissioned ny The Jeff Davis Library at Beauvoir in Mississippi. Have also heard of a Rbt E. Lee, and U.S. Grant also by Euroarms; but have never seen one. This might be one of those.

When I saw Gettysburg Commemorative, my somewhat feeble mind automatically linked it with the 1860 Army listed on Auction Arms since I had just been looking at it.

bprevolver · September 29, 2008, 10:33 AM

The America Remembers Gettysburg Commemorative was an 1860 Army not a Navy. Several companies produced special edition Gettysburg revolvers. Most were regular production revolvers that had Gettysburg markings and a special finish. The Euroarms is the first Euroarms special I have come across. RPRCA has a 1851 Navy with brass frame marked, GETTYSBURG - JULY 1, 1863. It is made by Armi San Paolo. It is nickel plated. There was also one in a cased set produced by Replica Arms using an 1861 Navy revolver. They also produced a Vicksburg, also cased.

The Replica Arms are very collectable and these sets are selling for $500 up.

Oquirrh · October 4, 2008, 05:43 PM

Took another look at it.
It's marked DGG, which I take to be Euroarms.

Says Gettysburg June 1863 on barrel.

It's a '51 Navy. 36 cal.

BRASS FRAME. Because the barrel is gold or brass- plated/coated, I couldn't tell the frame was brass.

It looks like it has never been fired.

Price is down to $175, but I don't care for brass framed revs.

September 3, 2008, 03:12 PM	#1
Oquirrh Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 188	Gettysburg 1851 Navy. I came across an Euro Arms Navy colt. Steel frame. It apparently had some kind of goldish electro-coating on it, which has worn and looks like hell. It is marked "Gettysburg Commemorative" on the barrel. (So I'm sure it's worth tens of dollars as a collectable ;-) I'm thinking of buying it, if I can get the price down. I could care less about the Gettysburg thing and would probably remove the rest of the "gold" plating. Did Euro Arms make good revolvers?

September 3, 2008, 05:13 PM	#2
GNLaFrance Member Join Date: June 29, 2008 Location: Near Baltimore, the Soviet Socialist Democratic People's Republic of Maryland Posts: 81	The only Euroarms I've ever handled was a Remington New Model Army .44 and it was fine, good action and trigger. I never got to fire it, sold it off and, of course, I'm sorry I did now, but that's another story. I'd ask for a three-day inspection period and return for price minus shipping. Of course you shouldn't fire it or disassemble it during that time. __________________ Guy N. LaFrance Collector of Curios & Relics, Maryland Designated Collector Maryland Shall Issue, GOA, NRA, SAF, JPFO Grand Army of the Frontier, National Congress of Old West Shootists

September 4, 2008, 03:47 PM	#5
Oquirrh Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 188	Thanks. The pistol is in a pawn shop, 'as is." But obviously, I can examine it closely. My problem is that they believe the Gettysburg markings make it some kind of museum piece. It's priced way high, $325. Like I said before it looks like hell because the gold finish is coming off. I've got to take along a magnet to make sure the frame is steel under the crude and worn gold. Sometimes the offer of a couple crisp Ulysses S. Grants helps in bargaining.

September 5, 2008, 10:14 AM	#6
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Might be this one ?: The Gettysburg 1863 Revolver was manufactured by Uberti for America Remembers in 1993. From the 5th Edition Blue Book of Modern BP arms: "The Gettysburg 1863 revolver - .44 cal perc., 1860 Army commemorating the July 1863 battle. This model features a 24 kt gold battle scene surrounding the rebated cylinder. The left side of the barrel bears the legend "GETTYSBURG PENNSYLVANIA JULY 1863". On the right side is an inscription from lLincoln's Gettysburg Address, "We here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain". The backstrap, trigger guard and front sight blade are 24kt. gold plated. A french fit solid wlnut display case contains the revolver and both Union and Confederate belt buckles in solid brass, and a parchment replica of the Gettysburg Address. Edition limited to 1863." The original issue price was $1395. There is one on Auction Arms NIB listed for $1100. http://www.auctionarms.com/search/di...temnum=8782567 Without the cases and acessories, and in the shape you describe, $325 is probably a little high. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce Last edited by Fingers McGee; September 5, 2008 at 06:57 PM.

September 5, 2008, 06:48 PM	#7
Oquirrh Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 188	Thanks for the reference... Don't think it is the same revolver. The one I looked at is -- unless my memory is totally shot -- a Navy '51 by Euro-Arms and .36 cal. Also it was in the original, but tattered, cardboard box with a hole where a powder flask used to be. I'll try to swing by and take a second look this weekend.

September 3, 2008, 09:20 PM	#3
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	I own two Euroarms Rogers & Spencer revolvers and one Euroarms 1860 Colt Army revolver, and all three are fine guns. One of the Rogers and Spencers was one of the first guns I bought nearly 30 years ago (date code 1979) and it's in excellent shape. The other (date code 1994) I bought used about 4 years ago and it's also in good shape. The Colt has a date code of 1998, also bought used, in excellent shape. They come close to Uberti quality in terms of fit and finish; the Colt is very nice, plus has a very smooth action. The R&S's are a bit less in terms of finish and the actions are a little rough. I'd answer your question (Did Euroarms make good revolvers), "Yes".

September 5, 2008, 07:06 PM	#8
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Euroarms made a number of 'private party' commemoratives in the 80s. I have Jefferson Davis Commemorative that was commissioned ny The Jeff Davis Library at Beauvoir in Mississippi. Have also heard of a Rbt E. Lee, and U.S. Grant also by Euroarms; but have never seen one. This might be one of those. When I saw Gettysburg Commemorative, my somewhat feeble mind automatically linked it with the 1860 Army listed on Auction Arms since I had just been looking at it. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

September 29, 2008, 10:33 AM	#9
bprevolver Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 141	Gettysburg Commemorative The America Remembers Gettysburg Commemorative was an 1860 Army not a Navy. Several companies produced special edition Gettysburg revolvers. Most were regular production revolvers that had Gettysburg markings and a special finish. The Euroarms is the first Euroarms special I have come across. RPRCA has a 1851 Navy with brass frame marked, GETTYSBURG - JULY 1, 1863. It is made by Armi San Paolo. It is nickel plated. There was also one in a cased set produced by Replica Arms using an 1861 Navy revolver. They also produced a Vicksburg, also cased. The Replica Arms are very collectable and these sets are selling for $500 up. Last edited by bprevolver; September 29, 2008 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Add

October 4, 2008, 05:43 PM	#10
Oquirrh Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 188	Second look... Took another look at it. It's marked DGG, which I take to be Euroarms. Says Gettysburg June 1863 on barrel. It's a '51 Navy. 36 cal. BRASS FRAME. Because the barrel is gold or brass- plated/coated, I couldn't tell the frame was brass. It looks like it has never been fired. Price is down to $175, but I don't care for brass framed revs.