m1 carbine short barrel

abraxian · April 5, 2011, 05:37 AM

Would you be legal if you cut an m1 carbine barrel short of sixteen inches and used a pistol grip stock?

a.lol.cat · April 5, 2011, 07:52 AM

Are you trying to do a SBR, or converting a rifle to a pistol w/o doing a form 1?

Changing a rifle to a pistol, can't happen.

Doing a SBR with a pistol grip. Nothing that I know of in FL law cares what the configuration of a SBR is.

docnyt · April 5, 2011, 07:52 AM

It depends on what your state's SBR laws are.

M4Sherman · April 5, 2011, 09:56 AM

at one time I believe a company made a M1 pistol

M4Sherman · April 5, 2011, 10:03 AM

to answer you question. as long as the rifle still mesures 26" you should be good to go

here we are on the original pistol

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&c...w=1366&bih=644

Bill DeShivs · April 5, 2011, 12:55 PM

Not without prior ATF approval, and a $200 tax stamp. You would be making a short barreled rifle-even if the overall length is more than 26 inches.

M-1 carbine pistols were made by Iver Johnson, Plainfield, and Universal. They were manufactured as pistols and are perfectly legal as such.

James K · April 5, 2011, 02:48 PM

Laws aside, it is not a good idea to cut down an M1/M2 carbine barrel; if cut too far back, and the pressure drops too soon, the gun may not operate.

Jim

kraigwy · April 5, 2011, 03:24 PM

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Would you be legal if you cut an m1 carbine barrel short of sixteen inches and used a pistol grip stock?

I'll leave the legal aspect to others, but

If you butcher a USGI M1 Carbine there is a good chance you'll be struck by lightning, you aint shooting next to me.

gyvel · April 5, 2011, 03:31 PM

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If you butcher a USGI M1 Carbine there is a good chance you'll be struck by lightning, you aint shooting next to me.

Maybe he's talking about a Universal.

Sleuth · April 6, 2011, 02:41 PM

At one time I was issued by my agency an M1 Carbine with the barrel cut to the end of the stock, and the front sight remounted. It was the only "long" gun that would fit in our OV-1 aircraft, as long as we had the GI folding stocks. Anything else would have killed me if I had to eject (This was decades before the M4 guns). The guns worked just fine.

Legally, there are two parts to the law regarding length:
1. Overall length must be greater than 26"
2. Barrel must be greater than 16" (18" for shotgun)

Cut the barrel of any rifle shorter than 16" will get you 10 years as a guest of Uncle Sam, unless you buy the $200 tax stamp in advance.

April 5, 2011, 05:37 AM	#1
abraxian Member Join Date: June 18, 2005 Location: amelia island, florida Posts: 73	m1 carbine short barrel Would you be legal if you cut an m1 carbine barrel short of sixteen inches and used a pistol grip stock?

April 5, 2011, 12:55 PM	#6
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	Not without prior ATF approval, and a $200 tax stamp. You would be making a short barreled rifle-even if the overall length is more than 26 inches. M-1 carbine pistols were made by Iver Johnson, Plainfield, and Universal. They were manufactured as pistols and are perfectly legal as such. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

April 6, 2011, 02:41 PM	#10
Sleuth Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 445	At one time I was issued by my agency an M1 Carbine with the barrel cut to the end of the stock, and the front sight remounted. It was the only "long" gun that would fit in our OV-1 aircraft, as long as we had the GI folding stocks. Anything else would have killed me if I had to eject (This was decades before the M4 guns). The guns worked just fine. Legally, there are two parts to the law regarding length: 1. Overall length must be greater than 26" 2. Barrel must be greater than 16" (18" for shotgun) Cut the barrel of any rifle shorter than 16" will get you 10 years as a guest of Uncle Sam, unless you buy the $200 tax stamp in advance. __________________ Sleuth

April 5, 2011, 07:52 AM	#2
a.lol.cat Member Join Date: December 14, 2010 Location: Da Interwebz Posts: 69	Are you trying to do a SBR, or converting a rifle to a pistol w/o doing a form 1? Changing a rifle to a pistol, can't happen. Doing a SBR with a pistol grip. Nothing that I know of in FL law cares what the configuration of a SBR is.

April 5, 2011, 07:52 AM	#3
docnyt Senior Member Join Date: March 23, 2011 Location: HeArT of DiXiE Posts: 154	It depends on what your state's SBR laws are.

April 5, 2011, 09:56 AM	#4
M4Sherman Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 408	at one time I believe a company made a M1 pistol

April 5, 2011, 10:03 AM	#5
M4Sherman Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 408	to answer you question. as long as the rifle still mesures 26" you should be good to go here we are on the original pistol http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&c...w=1366&bih=644

April 5, 2011, 02:48 PM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Laws aside, it is not a good idea to cut down an M1/M2 carbine barrel; if cut too far back, and the pressure drops too soon, the gun may not operate. Jim