Brass to Face (1911)

Model12Win · September 18, 2017, 03:20 PM

I have a Springfield GI 1911 and it's been very reliable over several hundred rounds of good 'ol "they all fall to" 230 grain hardball.

But it squirts empty shells right at my face.

This is very disrespectful behavior and it has to be fixed! Anyone know how to make the brass come out consistently and not right at my head? I actually had some marks as they bounced off painfully the other day.

Thanks!

M12

DPI7800 · September 18, 2017, 03:30 PM

Shoot it gangster style.

Sorry couldn't resist.

**Aguila Blanca** · September 18, 2017, 03:32 PM

Hop over to http://forum.m1911.org/

Join up so you can post, then ask in the Gunsmithing discussion area. The short answer is that you take a file to the end of the ejector to change the angle, but if you have a full-size with a GI style ejector, I'm not prepared to suggest how to alter it. This is usually a problem with smaller (shorter) 1911s, which usually have extended ejectors.

Model12Win · September 18, 2017, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguila Blanca

Hop over to http://forum.m1911.org/

Join up so you cab post, then ask in the Gunsmithing discussion area. The short answer is that you take a file to the end of the ejector to change the angle, but if you have a full-size with a GI style ejector, I'm not prepared to suggest how to alter it. This is usually a problem with smaller (shorter) 1911s, which usually have extended ejectors.

Thanks! I'll try it. I don't want to ruin my extractor. I know this is the touchy part of the 1911, so will go lightly and see. It really is a solid pistol and I've fired 350 round through it with no hiccups, but the brass does go everywhere and often right at my face which makes shooting it really not much fun!

CalmerThanYou · September 18, 2017, 05:24 PM

I have that happen to frequently with my Kimber Master Cary Pro 45 I am working on a firmer grip and a improved stance to lessen the muzzle rise and having the brass fly in my direction. I had one go down my shirt a few weeks ago. I did a odd little dance.

Nathan · September 18, 2017, 07:55 PM

1) confirm extractor tension....it has to be somewhat tight.
2) adjust the ejector contact point up on the case with a file
3) Fit an extended ejector

dahermit · September 18, 2017, 09:03 PM

Quote:

1) confirm extractor tension....it has to be somewhat tight.
2) adjust the extractor contact point up on the case with a file
3) Fit an extended extractor

Number one is o.k., but numbers two and three should say, ejector, not the extractor.

**44 AMP** · September 19, 2017, 12:48 AM

Here's a thought, before you do anything to the gun, try some different ammo!

Seriously. Just changing brands might make all the difference. It ALSO might just be the way you hold the gun.

I've had a number of 1911A1s, and never had a problem with cases hitting my face, but I have had them land on my hat, and in my shirt pocket....

All ammo isn't exactly the same and a small difference in the MV can change the slide velocity just enough to change the angle of ejection, so cases may sail over your head, or miss your face to one side, or the other.

I'd try some different ammo, just to see. When you go "adjusting" the extractor, you might get things just right, and then shoot something else and have the problem back again. You could wind up chasing your tail on this one, so I'd recommend trying different things before modifying the gun.

Nathan · September 19, 2017, 01:01 AM

@dahermit....thanks

Don P · September 19, 2017, 06:15 AM

Perhaps being a GI model and not having a lowered and flared ejection port be part of the issue

mete · September 19, 2017, 07:14 AM

It can be adjusted with extractor and port. That and handloading I could put most of the cases in to my pocket.
For some reason we seemed to forget to tell female shooters to button blouses all the way up .

dahermit · September 19, 2017, 09:56 AM

The extractor and the ejector control the angle at which the empty casing is thrown from a 1911. Here is likely all you need to know relative to obtaining a more desirable result.
https://www.google.com/search?q=1911...5BEHDnuNAsvaM:

RickB · September 20, 2017, 10:32 AM

If ejected case are being thrown all over the place, I'd check the fit/tension of the extractor, and make sure than the ejector is rock-solid on the frame.

September 18, 2017, 03:20 PM	#1
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Brass to Face (1911) I have a Springfield GI 1911 and it's been very reliable over several hundred rounds of good 'ol "they all fall to" 230 grain hardball. But it squirts empty shells right at my face. This is very disrespectful behavior and it has to be fixed! Anyone know how to make the brass come out consistently and not right at my head? I actually had some marks as they bounced off painfully the other day. Thanks! M12

September 18, 2017, 03:32 PM	#3
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	Hop over to http://forum.m1911.org/ Join up so you can post, then ask in the Gunsmithing discussion area. The short answer is that you take a file to the end of the ejector to change the angle, but if you have a full-size with a GI style ejector, I'm not prepared to suggest how to alter it. This is usually a problem with smaller (shorter) 1911s, which usually have extended ejectors. Last edited by Aguila Blanca; September 19, 2017 at 03:48 PM.

September 18, 2017, 07:55 PM	#6
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	1) confirm extractor tension....it has to be somewhat tight. 2) adjust the ejector contact point up on the case with a file 3) Fit an extended ejector Last edited by Nathan; September 19, 2017 at 01:01 AM.

September 19, 2017, 12:48 AM	#8
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,835	Here's a thought, before you do anything to the gun, try some different ammo! Seriously. Just changing brands might make all the difference. It ALSO might just be the way you hold the gun. I've had a number of 1911A1s, and never had a problem with cases hitting my face, but I have had them land on my hat, and in my shirt pocket.... All ammo isn't exactly the same and a small difference in the MV can change the slide velocity just enough to change the angle of ejection, so cases may sail over your head, or miss your face to one side, or the other. I'd try some different ammo, just to see. When you go "adjusting" the extractor, you might get things just right, and then shoot something else and have the problem back again. You could wind up chasing your tail on this one, so I'd recommend trying different things before modifying the gun. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

September 19, 2017, 06:15 AM	#10
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Perhaps being a GI model and not having a lowered and flared ejection port be part of the issue __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

September 18, 2017, 03:30 PM	#2
DPI7800 Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2014 Posts: 208	Shoot it gangster style. Sorry couldn't resist.

September 18, 2017, 05:24 PM	#5
CalmerThanYou Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2017 Posts: 323	I have that happen to frequently with my Kimber Master Cary Pro 45 I am working on a firmer grip and a improved stance to lessen the muzzle rise and having the brass fly in my direction. I had one go down my shirt a few weeks ago. I did a odd little dance.

September 19, 2017, 01:01 AM	#9
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	@dahermit....thanks

September 19, 2017, 07:14 AM	#11
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	It can be adjusted with extractor and port. That and handloading I could put most of the cases in to my pocket. For some reason we seemed to forget to tell female shooters to button blouses all the way up . __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

September 19, 2017, 09:56 AM	#12
dahermit Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Location: South Central Michigan...near Posts: 6,501	The extractor and the ejector control the angle at which the empty casing is thrown from a 1911. Here is likely all you need to know relative to obtaining a more desirable result. https://www.google.com/search?q=1911...5BEHDnuNAsvaM:

September 20, 2017, 10:32 AM	#13
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	If ejected case are being thrown all over the place, I'd check the fit/tension of the extractor, and make sure than the ejector is rock-solid on the frame. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.