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August 29, 2017, 03:58 PM | #26 |
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Scope with 4x works fine. Binoculars, on the other hand, need to be much higher power. Use the binoculars to find the game, identify if they are legal, and anything else out there, then the 4x to get the critter.
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August 30, 2017, 10:55 AM | #27 |
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And then there was the guy on Okinawa who took out a Japanese Machine gun crew at 1200 yards using the M1903A4 with the M73 2.5X Scope.
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I have shot, and made hits on steel at 1000 yards with a 3.5 power PU scope on a Mosin Nagant Sniper rifle.
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August 30, 2017, 01:52 PM | #29 |
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Distance has nothing to do with the magnification.
1903A4's and M1 C's and D's used a 2.5X scope. The USMC used a Lyman 5A 5x scope. And later the 8X Unertl. "...a scope with less power..." Less magnification is good with shotguns and heavy recoiling rifles like .458 Win. Higher magnification comes with a big handicap in the form of a smaller field of view. And not being able to take close range hunting shots due to the blurring. Variables come with the handicap of weight(a Bushnell 3-12 x 40 scope weighs 21.3 ounces.) and a smaller field of view. Most hunters with variables put the thing on about 4x or so and leave it there. You do not have time to fiddle with a scope when hunting deer sized game. "...An old rule of thumb is..." Not true. Carlos Hathcock put a 10X Unertl on an M2 BMG, but used a regular 8x on his M70.
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* get a scope with fine crosshairs, not a heavy duplex reticle * get a scope that focuses sharp, not kinda sorta. * learn the trajectory of your rifle by shooting at specific yardages, then on animals at random ranges * shoot the same bullet and load for everything.
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Great thread.
I recently picked up a BAS - Big A$$ Scope - https://www.natchezss.com/nikon-mona...anced-bdc.html This new-addition-scope is for my precision 223 bolt action rifle. Varminting is a bit different than big game. I like to know what eyelash I'm shooting. One of the perks of this scope is the on-line Spot On ballistics calculator. For every scope Nikon makes the ballistics calculator will tell you holdover for the reticle you have. I discovered Nikon has an ~ equivalent model scope for every different manufacture scope I have on my hunting rifles that can be run through the Nikon ballistic calculator. You need to know a bit about the specific load you are shooting but the calculator can be applied to most any scope. Quality scopes I have on several different center-fire rifles include - Fixed 6X, 2.5-8 variable, 3-10 variable, 4.5-14 variable, 2-7 variable, and the 5-25 variable. Some have ballistic drop compensating reticles, others do not. The Fixed does not so the only reference besides the cross is the top of the post on the vertical crosshair. Still, it can be correlated to a Nikon scope of similar features. Range trips with this information have been quite telling. Years ago I gave my Son-In-Law a Marlin Lever Action with a fixed 4X scope. Don't miss the gun but sure miss the scope as I thought it about the perfect complement for a hunting rifle. Also of note is the fact any big game I shoot at in the field is a lot larger than the 3" Shoot-N-See range target. High magnification at the range, low magnification in the field. Not much difference in the sight picture.
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