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Old September 30, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1
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Question for Tikka T3 owners

I was checking the action on my rifle today, looking for possibilities of replacement stocks and I noticed that as the front and rear trigger guard screw pull the action down into the stock, the front screw causes the barrel to touch the stock. I loosened the front screw and it floated all the way to the action, tighten the screw back and the front 2" or so of barrel directly in front of the action touch the barrel.

A picture for reference. (sorry bout the quality) - As you can see, that is as far up the barrel as I can fit the paper sheet. If I loosen that front screw to the point that it almost falls out the sheet goes to the front of the action.



Can a tikka owner chime in and let me know if this is normal?
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Old October 1, 2009, 06:19 AM   #2
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That's fairly normal on the synthetic stocks. They are floated but not all the way to the receiver. THey have an incredibly tight stock to receiver fit also. I'd shoot it first thing. It will likely shoot very well like that. If the stock contact continues to bother you take a deep well socket wrapped in sandpaper to enlarge the barrel channel where you have contact. You definately do not want to raise the receiver in the stock because T3's have a relatively shallow recoil lug with minimal contact in the first place.

What you have there is normal and I'm willing to bet it will shoot just fine. Remember most bedded rifles have a pad of bedding that supports the first 2" of barrel. Some support in that area is a good thing.
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Old October 1, 2009, 07:30 AM   #3
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He has had the rifle for a while so he already knows how it groups. It's a struggle to get it to shoot sub MOA. I think he is looking to improve it by getting a new stock and barrel. I shot it not long ago and its REALLY nice to shoot, just hard to get good groups.
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Old October 1, 2009, 08:43 AM   #4
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Tikka gaurantees their accuracy so send it back. The barrels and triggers are the same as Sako's. You should have a very good hammer forged factory barrel on that rifle. Restocking T3's is difficult because they lack a recoil lug as part of the receiver. Tikka's utilize a grooved receiver that mates to a lug that stays mortised into the stock.
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Old October 1, 2009, 11:48 AM   #5
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I don't think they guarantee sub MOA just that it will shoot 3 shots MOA.
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Old October 1, 2009, 12:14 PM   #6
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What specific size groups are you getting now?
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Old October 1, 2009, 01:20 PM   #7
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My T3 Lite is the same way. No worries from my end cuz it still shoots better than me.
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Old October 1, 2009, 04:05 PM   #8
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My T3 06 will shoot 150's and 165's into .75" all day. Crappy stock, but it can shoot. Play with it before making any changes.
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Old October 1, 2009, 04:29 PM   #9
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My T3 is the same also

It is of the .243 flavor and I measured 3 1/2 inches touching in front of the action. I am not going to change mine either. It flat out shoots for a stock gun.
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Old October 1, 2009, 04:57 PM   #10
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My T3 Lite 30-06 is the same way and I can produce 1 MOA groups with it. The rifle may be sub MOA but I don't care because I don't plan to shoot it beyond 500 yds. Is he positive that the undesireable groups are produced by the rifle and not him?
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Old October 1, 2009, 08:50 PM   #11
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Example of groups for it.
Shot at 100 meters, from a bench with a bag on front and rear, using 64 grain Federal soft points.
At the moment I am considering trying a few more types of ammo and brands before I start worrying too much. It has begun to shoot better with the bipod removed and after firing a couple of hundred rounds.

But here is a idea of how it shoots - the first two are from several months ago




The next two are from my most recent shoot a month ago.




For reference the inner red square on the left side of the first two targets is 1" across (with the white space being 1" in width between the inner and outer red) - the right side of the target is half the size in all respects.

2nd target type is 2.5" for the 10 ring, 3/4" for red centre bull.
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Old October 25, 2009, 04:33 PM   #12
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Telgriff

You didn't say what caliber but with 64 grains, I suspect it might be in either a heavy .223 or a medium weight .243.

T-3s are pretty accurate rifles, so you may want to try different weight bullets and several brands. I would recommend you try a variety of brands, bullet weights and bullet shapes before you do anything rash about the stock. Hand loaders will tell you that how close the bullet is seated to the rifling make quite a difference in accuracy in some rifles. Those tolerances are hard to determine with factory ammo so you may be shooting something that your T-3 doesn't particularly like.

To give you an example, my M70 Winchester in .270 loves 130 grain and 140 grain ammo. But even then, it really likes about three different ammos. It's very best group a 0.389 with Winchester FailSafes 140 grain ammo. But it shot Winchester Ballistic Silvertip 130 grain ammo at 1.87 inches.
It generally doesn't shoot most 150 grain ammos well but even though it doesn't, it managed a 0.77 inch group with Hornady Interlock SPs.
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Old October 25, 2009, 11:49 PM   #13
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The caliber is .223.

I tried using some 55gr Soft Points and then some Nosler Ballistic Tips also in 55gr.

So far the Ballistic Tips have improved accuracy, but that was only at 50m (I took it right back to 25m and stepped it forward to 50 to reset scope and rezero at 50m).

3 shot group at 1/2 an inch (edge to edge) and the 5 shot opening to just under an inch. So 1MOA for a 3 shot group which is what they guarantee.

The only other exception was 69gr SMK's which also produced closer to 1/4 of an inch at 50m. So it seems that match grade bullets perform much better in the Tikka.

So far it looks like Ammo preference thankfully, with the Boat tail and premium projectiles being preferred. So time to get as many boxes of 223 as I can find on different brands.
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Old October 26, 2009, 11:06 AM   #14
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My Tikka .270 is the same way.
Doesn't seem to bother how it shoots, though.

Target is a 7-shot group

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