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Yeah, 22lr will go through 55 gallon drums. And I don't doubt for a second that that target is 500 yards away. The distance from the closest pole to the target might be 150yds, but I suspect it's closer to 200.
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It doesn't "look" like 500yrds but I'm not about to call anyone a liar. Somebody with a milldot scope and a big Hi-def computer screen should range it out for us... HaHa. Oh and 22lr will go through a drum all day. Even out of a Walther P22.
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500 yards - yes.
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Using the telephone poles as a measure only works if you know how tall they are to begin with. Any pole that is non standard will throw the calculation off. A better measure is to look at the tire tracks close to the camera . How wide is a pick-up track? How wide is a tire? Notice how they go over a small rise and disappear. Imagine a pick-up truck sitting in those tracks. How tall would it be? Then take a look again at the closest pole. It's pretty far. Pete
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I'm more inclined to use the known width of the telephone pole, as opposed to the hight.
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your ability to maintain "combat accuracy" with a Glock out to 500 is impressive.But I'm still not impressed with the mechanical accuracy.heck I've seen an old fat man shoot balloons at 200 yards with a SAA.
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Considering the amount of drop at that distance, there is no way the holes indicated could have been formed by a single shot fired at 500 yards.
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Google youtube for hickok45 - he's amazing...like a real life John Wayne. The history channel should hire him for their firearms segments.
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long range handgun
My thought is this, it's his gun, his time to shoot it as much as it takes to do what he wants it to do... pratice..pratice...pratice...most people spend more time and money adding shiny bling to their guns then time on the range... I believe this, if he say's he can ,then he can, who am I to call BS? I've made shots that others would call BS or crazy...if you haven't then your not a shooter...
I've hit steel at 200 yds with my 45 ACP...not every time, but I've done it, I killed a deer at 300 yds with the 14th shot out of a 357 6" colt trooper.. had I wounded it and it had gotten away I would have carried that guilt all my life, but I was young, dumb and trying to impress people.... would I do it again? never... Elmer Keith was a great shot, just ask him, well not now but .... I know people who shot with him and say he was a true pistol shooter "AND" a wonderful BS artist... who cares...he could tell a great story... |
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Many years ago at my range in Pennsylvania I watched a man ring a 300 meter 24" steel plate swinging gong with a Beretta 9mm, IIRC 10 times out of 20, from a sitting position.
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I must be slow tonight. It looks like the amount of drop reverses and by 500 yds there is no longer any drop to compensate for???? The amount of drop and lead is about 2 foot in the first 25 yards?? Is this seriously messed up or am I just dumber than a box of rocks? jb |
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It's not messed up.
In order to get a 500 yard zero you would be nearly 26 inches high at 25 yards, and it's dropping like a rock (which is actually exactly the same as dropping like a bullet) at 500 yards. It loses almost 36 inches in the last 25 yards. The lead is based on a moving target, can't remember how fast. I ignored that part, should have changed it to zero. Anyway, doesn't have much bearing on this case.
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First picture looks like 500yds to me.
Any of you non believer's , ever shot a target 500yds out ? |
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You folks really need to get out more. Try a range with a decent long backstop, and burn some powder. It would be one thing for someone to honestly say that they have shot extensively at long range and just can't get the hang of it, and therefore have some skeptisism of those who can, and it is another thing entirely to just dismiss as BS some shooting which many of us understand as entirely feasable and doable. Ignoring reality just makes a person look like a fool. Calling a man a liar, or alluding to it at least, in this situation makes you look like an ill mannered fool.
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Wow!
That is seriously impressive.
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Nice post. I enjoy watching people wring out the most performance they can from their pistols.
Yes, that it 500 yards, yes it is quite doable, and yes a handgun bullet still has enough energy to penetrate a barrel.
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Desertscout1, shoot that Glock at 25 and show us the groups. I bet you can do under 2 inches.
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on a side note Pizza's 40 chart got me to thinkin heres a chart of a 147XTP 9mm.notice 16.7" less midrange trajectory and even thou it starts with less velocity @500 yards it retains nearly 100 fps more.
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My chart was based on the 155gr XTP. Too be fair, the comparison should probably be either heavy for caliber or light for caliber on both sides, but I get your point. What did you use for the BC? Where'd you get the MV? Hornady lists 975.
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Just checked the very first load on handloader.com has it 147xtp @1050fps using 6.2gr of blue dot
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