Ruger GP 100 for Concealed Carry - Page 2

Real Gun · May 8, 2018, 06:06 PM

My 41 Special is a 3" GP100 six shooter with adjustable sights and it makes a good winter carry, OWB. With no need to wear quite as much in warmer months I revert to a 3" SP101 in 327 Federal (loaded subsonic).

TraumaRN · May 8, 2018, 11:10 PM

Daily carry a 4" REDHAWK OWB weight isn't much of an issue with a 1
3 /4 gun belt and good pancake holster

Siggy-06 · May 9, 2018, 01:43 PM

I've concealed carried my Gp100 4" in a leather paddle holster a few times. Mostly when going on short errands. I personally wouldnt want to carry any gun over 30oz all day. My belt is a Wilderness 5 stitch, works great.

agtman · May 9, 2018, 04:40 PM

Man oh man, those GPs are heavy suckers.

I'd rather carry my 10+1 10mm G29.

Cosmodragoon · May 10, 2018, 06:07 AM

Hey now, I carry a wheel gun at least 70% of the time. With the LCR trigger being so good, I think the SP101 trigger just stands out more as... a lot less good. With all these new models and configurations coming out from Ruger, I feel like they're overdue to update the SP101 with a good trigger.

Nanuk · May 10, 2018, 08:01 AM

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Back in the days when Revolvers were the norm in police holsters, it was a rare instance to find a cop carrying his duty revolver off duty and concealed.

I guess I was a rare one. I still carry a fullsize revolver concealed 1/2 the time, but it is a 44 magnum.

Armybrat · May 10, 2018, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmodragoon

Hey now, I carry a wheel gun at least 70% of the time. With the LCR trigger being so good, I think the SP101 trigger just stands out more as... a lot less good. With all these new models and configurations coming out from Ruger, I feel like they're overdue to update the SP101 with a good trigger.

Or just get a Wolf spring kit to improve the factory finger strainer.

Real Gun · May 10, 2018, 10:13 AM

I think the Ruger trigger is limited by the transfer bar design. If you don't want a gun that will only run on one brand and type of soft primers, most likely Federal, not small rifle on the 327 Federal, you will not go down more than one step in mainspring strength. Running a Ruger trigger is a separate skill, and the shooter has to go to it rather than bring the gun to their skill set.

DPris · May 10, 2018, 12:33 PM

Tried, but can't bring myself to agree.
Denis

Cosmodragoon · May 10, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Or just get a Wolf spring kit to improve the factory finger strainer.

It helps but it only addresses one dimension of the problem. Eliminating the overtravel was also helpful. The trigger reset is still a little clunky. There is also more side-to-side play in the trigger and hammer than I'd like. I'll try some shims at some point. As I said before, my newest SP101 is the worst of the bunch, even after professional help. Coincidentally, the gunsmith noticed that the muzzle crown was a little off too but that was an easy fix.

I think I just hit an unlucky low in the normal quality variance with this one. Still, the SP101 design in general could use some updating from Ruger. It's a shame to keep it that way when so many of their other guns are so much nicer in that department.

Armybrat · May 11, 2018, 02:03 PM

True. Ruger has improved triggers quite a bit in other models (LCP for one), so it would behoove them (and us shooters) to turn their attention to the SP. I've never handled a GP, so that's an unknown to me. Too bad the Ruger website removed the direct email link to the CEO.

Given all the complaints I've read everywhere about Ruger QC, I must be pretty lucky since this SP101 (.327 Federal), my NV. 357, and little 2nd Gen LCP have not had any problems.... yet.

MINSH101 · May 11, 2018, 09:15 PM

I have the six shot version of the 4.2 inch GP100. Admittedly I've never tried to carry it IWB. I'm not sure how comfortable you will be carrying the beast that is the 4.2 inch GP100. I'm thinking more of when you have to sit in a confined area, think of having it holstered while driving.

In terms of picking a defensive tool, you picked a GREAT one. Seven shots of .357 magnum! That's next on my list. Plus, you'd be hard pressed to find a more durable firearm.

I also have the SP101 for conceal carry and it is a dream to shoot/carry. You can't go wrong either way. Both will offer protection for you and those you love.

Johnny Guest · May 12, 2018, 01:34 AM

I've sorrowfully concluded that my concealed carry of most auto pistols is pretty much past. Since retirement, my arthritis has progressed to the point that I can't properly manage clearing a malfunction or even properly reloading a medium-to-major caliber auto.

I've gone over to a Colt Cobra four-inch barrel in an AIWB (appendix inside waistband holster.) I carry the Buffalo Bore 158 LSWCHP load and can handle it pretty well. I don't kid myself into thinking it is the equal of a .357, but the 4-inch tube adds a touch of velocity, and it makes it easier to shoot accurately. I still have enough dexterity to manage a speedloader.

This is not fantasy carry-- I have daily carried concealed sidearms for slightly over 50 years, but for limited carry outside the USA.

Nanuk · May 12, 2018, 08:16 AM

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I've sorrowfully concluded that my concealed carry of most auto pistols is pretty much past. Since retirement, my arthritis has progressed to the point that I can't properly manage clearing a malfunction or even properly reloading a medium-to-major caliber auto.

I've gone over to a Colt Cobra four-inch barrel in an AIWB (appendix inside waistband holster.) I carry the Buffalo Bore 158 LSWCHP load and can handle it pretty well. I don't kid myself into thinking it is the equal of a .357, but the 4-inch tube adds a touch of velocity, and it makes it easier to shoot accurately. I still have enough dexterity to manage a speedloader.

This is not fantasy carry-- I have daily carried concealed sidearms for slightly over 50 years, but for limited carry outside the USA.

Too bad about Uncle Art, but you have a system that works well for you.

DPris · May 12, 2018, 12:37 PM

That Smith Shield EZ .380 an option?
Denis

Doc Holliday 1950 · May 12, 2018, 10:54 PM

Ruger makes a 357 in magnum 2.75:"RED HAWK 8 shot revolver. At 44ozs. it quite a load top carry in the in the waste holster holster. I had the GP100 4.2" 6 shot revolver & found it, as best, a really big mama to carry ITW. However, it was a very accurate revolver to shoot & It's doable. It's not a dinky lightweight 357 in magnum revolver. IMHO, if you really want to carry the 7 shot
4.2' 357 in magnum, please do so & best of luck.

**JohnKSa** · May 13, 2018, 01:03 AM

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I guess I was a rare one. I still carry a fullsize revolver concealed 1/2 the time, but it is a 44 magnum.

I'd say that's pretty unusual. Maybe a bit less unusual in places like AK where encounters with very large animals are more likely.

wild cat mccane · May 13, 2018, 07:48 AM

You didn't miss anything with the CEO email.

He was about as standoffish as you could be when I asked if the LCP gen2 with a stainless slide was going to be re-released.

Buckeye! · May 16, 2018, 06:22 PM

I used to carry a GP100 or a Security 6 .. as I got older , my back did also .. So my choice of a 357 is my Glock 32 !

ZEBRARANGER · May 16, 2018, 09:55 PM

The best 6 shot 357 that I've ever cc'd was the 2-3/4" Security Six. Too bad they don't make them anymore. The J frame S&W's are probably the easiest to carry, but only 5 rounds of 38.

Road_Clam · May 17, 2018, 06:52 AM

Maybe you beefy gents can carry a GP100, but i'm a wirery 5'10" and about 160 lbs so my GP100 would stick out like a 3rd leg.

agtman · May 17, 2018, 06:59 AM

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Maybe you beefy gents can carry a GP100, but i'm a wirery 5'10" and about 160 lbs so my GP100 would stick out like a 3rd leg.

No kidding ...

If I want to holster a boat-anchor to my hip and try to conceal it, I'll stick my ancient S&W Model 58 in an IWB and start walking funny.

Real Gun · May 17, 2018, 08:48 AM

I think to carry a GP100 you have to dress for concealment. It also helps to use the compact, Lett style grip. Then there are the suspenders. CCW comes at a price.

May 8, 2018, 06:06 PM	#26
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	My 41 Special is a 3" GP100 six shooter with adjustable sights and it makes a good winter carry, OWB. With no need to wear quite as much in warmer months I revert to a 3" SP101 in 327 Federal (loaded subsonic). __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.

May 9, 2018, 01:43 PM	#28
Siggy-06 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 1,148	I've concealed carried my Gp100 4" in a leather paddle holster a few times. Mostly when going on short errands. I personally wouldnt want to carry any gun over 30oz all day. My belt is a Wilderness 5 stitch, works great. __________________ Flicks just like a lighter, just a different kind of fire.

May 10, 2018, 10:13 AM	#33
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	I think the Ruger trigger is limited by the transfer bar design. If you don't want a gun that will only run on one brand and type of soft primers, most likely Federal, not small rifle on the 327 Federal, you will not go down more than one step in mainspring strength. Running a Ruger trigger is a separate skill, and the shooter has to go to it rather than bring the gun to their skill set. __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.

May 12, 2018, 01:34 AM	#38
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	"Long" revolver concealed carry I've sorrowfully concluded that my concealed carry of most auto pistols is pretty much past. Since retirement, my arthritis has progressed to the point that I can't properly manage clearing a malfunction or even properly reloading a medium-to-major caliber auto. I've gone over to a Colt Cobra four-inch barrel in an AIWB (appendix inside waistband holster.) I carry the Buffalo Bore 158 LSWCHP load and can handle it pretty well. I don't kid myself into thinking it is the equal of a .357, but the 4-inch tube adds a touch of velocity, and it makes it easier to shoot accurately. I still have enough dexterity to manage a speedloader. This is not fantasy carry-- I have daily carried concealed sidearms for slightly over 50 years, but for limited carry outside the USA.

May 12, 2018, 10:54 PM	#41
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Ruger makes a 357 in magnum 2.75:"RED HAWK 8 shot revolver. At 44ozs. it quite a load top carry in the in the waste holster holster. I had the GP100 4.2" 6 shot revolver & found it, as best, a really big mama to carry ITW. However, it was a very accurate revolver to shoot & It's doable. It's not a dinky lightweight 357 in magnum revolver. IMHO, if you really want to carry the 7 shot 4.2' 357 in magnum, please do so & best of luck. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

May 8, 2018, 11:10 PM	#27
TraumaRN Member Join Date: June 27, 2014 Posts: 46	Daily carry a 4" REDHAWK OWB weight isn't much of an issue with a 1 3 /4 gun belt and good pancake holster

May 9, 2018, 04:40 PM	#29
agtman Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2001 Location: midwest Posts: 2,374	Man oh man, those GPs are heavy suckers. I'd rather carry my 10+1 10mm G29.

May 10, 2018, 06:07 AM	#30
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	Hey now, I carry a wheel gun at least 70% of the time. With the LCR trigger being so good, I think the SP101 trigger just stands out more as... a lot less good. With all these new models and configurations coming out from Ruger, I feel like they're overdue to update the SP101 with a good trigger.

May 10, 2018, 12:33 PM	#34
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Tried, but can't bring myself to agree. Denis

May 11, 2018, 02:03 PM	#36
Armybrat Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2009 Location: Round Rock, Texas Posts: 976	True. Ruger has improved triggers quite a bit in other models (LCP for one), so it would behoove them (and us shooters) to turn their attention to the SP. I've never handled a GP, so that's an unknown to me. Too bad the Ruger website removed the direct email link to the CEO. Given all the complaints I've read everywhere about Ruger QC, I must be pretty lucky since this SP101 (.327 Federal), my NV. 357, and little 2nd Gen LCP have not had any problems.... yet.

May 11, 2018, 09:15 PM	#37
MINSH101 Member Join Date: September 8, 2015 Location: Washington State Posts: 63	I have the six shot version of the 4.2 inch GP100. Admittedly I've never tried to carry it IWB. I'm not sure how comfortable you will be carrying the beast that is the 4.2 inch GP100. I'm thinking more of when you have to sit in a confined area, think of having it holstered while driving. In terms of picking a defensive tool, you picked a GREAT one. Seven shots of .357 magnum! That's next on my list. Plus, you'd be hard pressed to find a more durable firearm. I also have the SP101 for conceal carry and it is a dream to shoot/carry. You can't go wrong either way. Both will offer protection for you and those you love.

May 12, 2018, 12:37 PM	#40
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	That Smith Shield EZ .380 an option? Denis

May 13, 2018, 07:48 AM	#43
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,625	You didn't miss anything with the CEO email. He was about as standoffish as you could be when I asked if the LCP gen2 with a stainless slide was going to be re-released.

May 16, 2018, 06:22 PM	#44
Buckeye! Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2008 Posts: 849	I used to carry a GP100 or a Security 6 .. as I got older , my back did also .. So my choice of a 357 is my Glock 32 !

May 16, 2018, 09:55 PM	#45
ZEBRARANGER Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 620	The best 6 shot 357 that I've ever cc'd was the 2-3/4" Security Six. Too bad they don't make them anymore. The J frame S&W's are probably the easiest to carry, but only 5 rounds of 38.

May 17, 2018, 06:52 AM	#46
Road_Clam Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,695	Maybe you beefy gents can carry a GP100, but i'm a wirery 5'10" and about 160 lbs so my GP100 would stick out like a 3rd leg. __________________ "To be old an wise you must have been young and stupid"

May 17, 2018, 08:48 AM	#48
Real Gun Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,743	I think to carry a GP100 you have to dress for concealment. It also helps to use the compact, Lett style grip. Then there are the suspenders. CCW comes at a price. __________________ Not an expert, just a reporter.