Ranier bullets crimp?

Ammo Junky · May 5, 2006, 08:28 PM

I am loading 480 ruger with ranier 325 hp. They shoot better than anything else, but they do slip out of the case some with recoil. This doesn't seem to hurt accuracy, but it bugs me. Anyone ever roll crimp plated bullets?

l z rifle · May 5, 2006, 09:06 PM

I use ranier 200gr 45acp, start with a empty case & no primer. start the roll crimp lighty on the bullet & case, take it out put your thumb on the bottom of case and push on a hard surface. If it moves used a little more until it stops moving. hope this helps.

HSMITH · May 5, 2006, 09:45 PM

I hate to do it, but the Lee Factory Crimp die is a good choice here. It will LIGHTLY roll the case into the bullet, and you can control it well enough to not break the plating. Not a big fan of the FCD but in this case it works well.

Lycanthrope · May 5, 2006, 10:10 PM

The Rainier is pretty much all I shoot for USPSA. I use the diameter of the bullet plus twice the diameter of the case wall. Crimping into the bullet never seemed to help much.

I'd start there and go deeper as necessary. Even if you would break the plating, I can't see a leading problem developing.........

Can you get an undersize sizing die for the .480?

MADISON · May 6, 2006, 08:58 AM

For about 7+ years I have used a TAPER CRIMP on my 38 Special/357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum and 45 ACP loadings. RANIER bullets do not have crimps? If you can get the bullets to "stay put" use a good strong taper crimp.

newbloader · May 6, 2006, 12:03 PM

How do you all load these do you load them as a FMJ or TMJ or I forgot where I saw but I think I read some where that you load them as a cast bullet because they are so soft?? Have 2000 coming in soon and I was wondering whether to load these as a cast or a fmj for the powder information. Right now im loading a Zero cast 230 grn. @ 5.2 for 45acp. just wanted to see what you all have to say about the loads for the rainier bullets thanks

Joey

Lycanthrope · May 6, 2006, 12:23 PM

Load them like cast bullets to start. They take less powder than jacketed bullets to reach the same velocity.

Madison, I can't speak for the .480, but the .40 and .45 do not have a cannelure to crimp into.

newbloader · May 6, 2006, 03:57 PM

Thats what I had figured thanks for replying to my question. just wanted to make sure. Thanks again

Joey

May 5, 2006, 08:28 PM	#1
Ammo Junky Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: IL Posts: 537	Ranier bullets crimp? I am loading 480 ruger with ranier 325 hp. They shoot better than anything else, but they do slip out of the case some with recoil. This doesn't seem to hurt accuracy, but it bugs me. Anyone ever roll crimp plated bullets?

May 6, 2006, 08:58 AM	#5
MADISON Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2000 Location: Roanoke, Virginia Posts: 2,678	RANIER bullet crimp For about 7+ years I have used a TAPER CRIMP on my 38 Special/357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum and 45 ACP loadings. RANIER bullets do not have crimps? If you can get the bullets to "stay put" use a good strong taper crimp.

May 6, 2006, 12:03 PM	#6
newbloader Junior Member Join Date: March 27, 2006 Posts: 6	Loading the rainier bullets How do you all load these do you load them as a FMJ or TMJ or I forgot where I saw but I think I read some where that you load them as a cast bullet because they are so soft?? Have 2000 coming in soon and I was wondering whether to load these as a cast or a fmj for the powder information. Right now im loading a Zero cast 230 grn. @ 5.2 for 45acp. just wanted to see what you all have to say about the loads for the rainier bullets thanks Joey

May 5, 2006, 09:06 PM	#2
l z rifle Junior Member Join Date: February 19, 2006 Location: sw mo Posts: 8	I use ranier 200gr 45acp, start with a empty case & no primer. start the roll crimp lighty on the bullet & case, take it out put your thumb on the bottom of case and push on a hard surface. If it moves used a little more until it stops moving. hope this helps.

May 5, 2006, 09:45 PM	#3
HSMITH Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2002 Posts: 2,019	I hate to do it, but the Lee Factory Crimp die is a good choice here. It will LIGHTLY roll the case into the bullet, and you can control it well enough to not break the plating. Not a big fan of the FCD but in this case it works well.

May 5, 2006, 10:10 PM	#4
Lycanthrope Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2001 Location: PA Posts: 1,752	The Rainier is pretty much all I shoot for USPSA. I use the diameter of the bullet plus twice the diameter of the case wall. Crimping into the bullet never seemed to help much. I'd start there and go deeper as necessary. Even if you would break the plating, I can't see a leading problem developing......... Can you get an undersize sizing die for the .480?

May 6, 2006, 12:23 PM	#7
Lycanthrope Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2001 Location: PA Posts: 1,752	Load them like cast bullets to start. They take less powder than jacketed bullets to reach the same velocity. Madison, I can't speak for the .480, but the .40 and .45 do not have a cannelure to crimp into.

May 6, 2006, 03:57 PM	#8
newbloader Junior Member Join Date: March 27, 2006 Posts: 6	Thats what I had figured thanks for replying to my question. just wanted to make sure. Thanks again Joey