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Old February 9, 2017, 09:44 PM   #1
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Alberts 38 cal 158 gr lrn info needed

I recently acquired 5 boxes of Alberts swaged lead pistol bullets in 38 cal. They are 158 gr. LRN. I'm trying to find loading info from anyone experienced with using them, I understand the company has been out of business a long time, probably why I can't find much info. I shoot with older s&w 4" and 6" model type revolvers and a taurus 8" 357 mag. I have no experience with swaged bullets and I've read they are soft and will lead barrels if not loaded correctly. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
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Old February 9, 2017, 09:58 PM   #2
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If you can easily scratch them with a fingernail they're probably pure lead. Keep them around 800-900 FPS and they won't lead.
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Old February 10, 2017, 06:23 PM   #3
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Bullseye a good choice?

Bullseye be a good choice in powder?
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Old February 10, 2017, 07:34 PM   #4
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Use the same loading data that you would for the Lyman/Ideal 358-311. If you have a Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook - the data should be in there. As Hawg suggests, keep 'em in the FPS range he suggests.

While hardness varies according to the alloy - a lead bullet is a lead bullet. Load one to the crimp groove and see what the overall length is and compare it to a loading manual. If the bullet seats deeper - then case volume is smaller thus increasing pressure so you need to adjust your load grain weight.

I shoot a lot of 158 gr. that I cast - RN, SWC - and I usually use Bulls Eye. All shoot just fine out of my vintage Smiths 1920 up through 1955 of various models) and my 1910 Colt Army Special. Normally I load them with about 3.5 gr. of BE but you could use less - check the minimum and maximum. All of my cast are tumble lubed in paste wax/alox.

Since this is a BP forum - if you load them with black powder - make sure you load them as a "compressed load". I normally use a 38 Colt Long casing as a measure with 3F which gives a compressed load when the bullet is seated. I just finger lube the bullet with my BP lube that I make out of beeswax/crisco but you could use SPG or similar.

Good luck and enjoy!
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Old February 10, 2017, 07:37 PM   #5
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Bullseye is a good powder but I prefer W231.
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Old February 16, 2017, 09:58 AM   #6
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Thanks for the info! I didn't realize I was in the b.p. area, I'm new to using this, and still getting used to getting around in here.
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Old February 16, 2017, 11:00 AM   #7
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No reason you can't use black powder instead of smokeless.
Your revolvers won't care.
See, now it's fixed and you're in the correct forum.
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Old February 16, 2017, 03:34 PM   #8
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This is probably where you wanted to go...
https://thefiringline.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
But, the BP crowd probably knows more.
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Old February 16, 2017, 04:07 PM   #9
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See this thread here:

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho....php?p=3117105

I ran into a bunch of these back in the day and someone gave me all the loading data, there's pics of all of it at the end of the thread.
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