Help identifying an 1851

Shotgun Willy · March 17, 2008, 12:09 PM

I came across a brass framed, Italian, 1851 this weekend. I can't figure out the manufacturer though. On the left side of the barrel it says Made in Italy. On the right side it says Black Powder Only. On top it says 1851 Old Model .36 caliber Navy Revolver. So I looked under the loading lever and there's nothing there. The frame and barrel are both stamped with the two Italian proof house markings. There is also an AH, so it was made in 1981. On the bottom of the grip is stamped a PR, with the P overlapping the R. Other than a C, which is above the SN on the barrel it's got no other marks. Anyone got a clue from this meager information?
Thanks.

scrat · March 17, 2008, 04:34 PM

Not too sure myself however if you email this link with the same info you might be able to get some help.
[email protected]

Shotgun Willy · March 17, 2008, 10:44 PM

Thanks Scrat, I'll give that a try. It's making me nuts that I can't figure it out.

scrat · March 18, 2008, 10:10 AM

I keep on thinking about this the p over an r. Sounds pedersoli. love to see a pic of the marks. Please let us know what you find.

Hawg · March 18, 2008, 07:05 PM

Pedersoli is a lower case dp in an oval.

arcticap · March 19, 2008, 10:33 PM

I've emailed a request for any information about whether these could be the initials of this Italian gunsmithing outfit listed as:

Quote:

PATRO di Palama Roberto

Verdello 1976

Also, many Italian 1851 reveolvers were imported by Richland Arms of Michigan during that time period, and there were some smaller Italian gunsmithing outfits building and assembling C&B revolvers back then.

scrat · March 19, 2008, 11:27 PM

Bill Marion at the revolver magazine should be able to help you. He is pretty good at identifying C&B Revolvers.

March 17, 2008, 12:09 PM	#1
Shotgun Willy Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Territory Posts: 98	Help identifying an 1851 I came across a brass framed, Italian, 1851 this weekend. I can't figure out the manufacturer though. On the left side of the barrel it says Made in Italy. On the right side it says Black Powder Only. On top it says 1851 Old Model .36 caliber Navy Revolver. So I looked under the loading lever and there's nothing there. The frame and barrel are both stamped with the two Italian proof house markings. There is also an AH, so it was made in 1981. On the bottom of the grip is stamped a PR, with the P overlapping the R. Other than a C, which is above the SN on the barrel it's got no other marks. Anyone got a clue from this meager information? Thanks.

March 17, 2008, 04:34 PM	#2
scrat Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Posts: 214	Not too sure myself however if you email this link with the same info you might be able to get some help. [email protected]

March 17, 2008, 10:44 PM	#3
Shotgun Willy Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Territory Posts: 98	Thanks Scrat, I'll give that a try. It's making me nuts that I can't figure it out.

March 18, 2008, 10:10 AM	#4
scrat Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Posts: 214	I keep on thinking about this the p over an r. Sounds pedersoli. love to see a pic of the marks. Please let us know what you find.

March 18, 2008, 07:05 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	Pedersoli is a lower case dp in an oval.

March 19, 2008, 11:27 PM	#7
scrat Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2008 Posts: 214	Bill Marion at the revolver magazine should be able to help you. He is pretty good at identifying C&B Revolvers.