Shot my 2nd idpa classifier yesterday

litenite99 · February 15, 2016, 11:36 AM

So I have been shooting IDPA for right at a year now and shot my 2nd classifier yesterday. I shot 136.50 for ssp and esp. I have officially got a classification promotion to sharpshooter only problem is im officially up against the good guys lol. I think at this point I may need some actual instruction of some sort to progress anymore. anyone here have any suggestions? We have no one in our club that is of any higher classification that sharpshooter so thats out of the question..

9x45 · February 15, 2016, 01:13 PM

You have a good start and a long ways to go. Best way forward is to find an IDPA Master to take lessons from. Keep in mind though that the IDPA classifier is fixed, it never changes, so make sure you don't focus solely on that aspect. 30 seconds per stage is considered pretty good, but there are those that can run it into the low 50s. If you don't have have a local IDPA, check if they are any local USPSA Masters or GMs. It's all the same skill set.

RickB · February 15, 2016, 01:35 PM

Make sure any USPSA "instructor" clearly understands the scoring differences between Unlimited and Hit Factor.
I've run more than a few USPSA Masters through the classifier who were on their way to a Marksman score until the scoring system was explained.

9x45 · February 15, 2016, 01:45 PM

Good shooters understand both scoring systems, but the value here is that the OP get lessons to move up. Rick, I suspect the USPSA hosers you ran thru it read the rule book and knew the scoring system, they just didn't want to "know" about it, wawawa, you didn't tell me it was straight time based or I would have shot it slower... yea right. Actually in the beginning of time, IDPA was 1/3 second down per point, but the math was too hard, and they thought guys were shooting it too fast, so 1/2 second down now, and they are going to 1 second down per point next.

litenite99 · February 15, 2016, 01:46 PM

you both make good points. we have two uspsa clubs local here in louisiana ill have to check them out and see. I have always intended on shooting both i just didnt want to get myself to confused with rules at first.

9x45 · February 15, 2016, 03:39 PM

OP, LA is a shooter rich area. Jerry Miculek lives near Princeton. And I'm pretty sure Blake Miguez is from LA also. Check USPSA.com club locator.

1-DAB · February 15, 2016, 06:15 PM

well done.

shaving 20+ seconds off that will take some work. look at your slowest strings for savings to be chased first, likely stage 3.

litenite99 · February 15, 2016, 07:37 PM

9x45 i looked around earlier after reading your post blake miguez apparently is listed as an instructor at max michel training. Jerry miculek has a website but nothing about any instruction. im sure any of those guys could give some very useful instruction. 1-dab.... it was stage 3 that cost me all my time. I cut my time in half on stage 1 and did well on stage 2, but stage 3 was almost to the second the same as my 1st time shooting the classifier.

AzShooter · February 16, 2016, 02:37 AM

The biggest help is to learn to shoot all A-zone hits and don't worry about speed. Speed with eventually come but accuracy takes time and practice.

Go to You Tube and check out IDPA and you will get tons of information on how to improve.

MrBorland · February 16, 2016, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by litenite99

blake miguez apparently is listed as an instructor at max michel training. Jerry miculek has a website but nothing about any instruction. im sure any of those guys could give some very useful instruction.

Getting either of those would be nice, but not necessary. The suggestion to get a good & experienced shooter to work with you is a good one, but you don't need a famous top gun to get a lot of benefit. Keep your eyes and ears open at your local matches, and even ask around a bit. You'll likely find there's at least one guy who's highly recommended.

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Originally Posted by litenite99

it was stage 3 that cost me all my time.

Generally, stage 3 is where most time is lost. Reigning in your Points Down on stage 3 is crucial. Treat it like a bullseye match if you have to.

1-DAB · February 16, 2016, 06:04 PM

yep, stage 3 is where you make your money. i shot a practice last week, 60 seconds, again. actually, 61.75, including down 23 (added 11.50 seconds). about average for me currently. missed T1 twice, that cost me big.

9x45 · February 16, 2016, 07:27 PM

OP, as Mr. Borland said you don't need the top top guns, there are many Master s and Grand Masters at local matches, it's just I happen know those guys and have shot with them before. They would be a good contact because the competition shooting world is really not so big.

February 15, 2016, 11:36 AM	#1
litenite99 Member Join Date: March 11, 2015 Location: louisiana Posts: 79	Shot my 2nd idpa classifier yesterday So I have been shooting IDPA for right at a year now and shot my 2nd classifier yesterday. I shot 136.50 for ssp and esp. I have officially got a classification promotion to sharpshooter only problem is im officially up against the good guys lol. I think at this point I may need some actual instruction of some sort to progress anymore. anyone here have any suggestions? We have no one in our club that is of any higher classification that sharpshooter so thats out of the question..

February 15, 2016, 01:13 PM	#2
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	You have a good start and a long ways to go. Best way forward is to find an IDPA Master to take lessons from. Keep in mind though that the IDPA classifier is fixed, it never changes, so make sure you don't focus solely on that aspect. 30 seconds per stage is considered pretty good, but there are those that can run it into the low 50s. If you don't have have a local IDPA, check if they are any local USPSA Masters or GMs. It's all the same skill set. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

February 15, 2016, 01:35 PM	#3
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	Make sure any USPSA "instructor" clearly understands the scoring differences between Unlimited and Hit Factor. I've run more than a few USPSA Masters through the classifier who were on their way to a Marksman score until the scoring system was explained. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

February 15, 2016, 01:45 PM	#4
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	Good shooters understand both scoring systems, but the value here is that the OP get lessons to move up. Rick, I suspect the USPSA hosers you ran thru it read the rule book and knew the scoring system, they just didn't want to "know" about it, wawawa, you didn't tell me it was straight time based or I would have shot it slower... yea right. Actually in the beginning of time, IDPA was 1/3 second down per point, but the math was too hard, and they thought guys were shooting it too fast, so 1/2 second down now, and they are going to 1 second down per point next. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look..... Last edited by 9x45; February 15, 2016 at 03:43 PM.

February 15, 2016, 03:39 PM	#6
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	OP, LA is a shooter rich area. Jerry Miculek lives near Princeton. And I'm pretty sure Blake Miguez is from LA also. Check USPSA.com club locator. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....

February 15, 2016, 01:46 PM	#5
litenite99 Member Join Date: March 11, 2015 Location: louisiana Posts: 79	you both make good points. we have two uspsa clubs local here in louisiana ill have to check them out and see. I have always intended on shooting both i just didnt want to get myself to confused with rules at first.

February 15, 2016, 06:15 PM	#7
1-DAB Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 474	well done. shaving 20+ seconds off that will take some work. look at your slowest strings for savings to be chased first, likely stage 3.

February 15, 2016, 07:37 PM	#8
litenite99 Member Join Date: March 11, 2015 Location: louisiana Posts: 79	9x45 i looked around earlier after reading your post blake miguez apparently is listed as an instructor at max michel training. Jerry miculek has a website but nothing about any instruction. im sure any of those guys could give some very useful instruction. 1-dab.... it was stage 3 that cost me all my time. I cut my time in half on stage 1 and did well on stage 2, but stage 3 was almost to the second the same as my 1st time shooting the classifier.

February 16, 2016, 02:37 AM	#9
AzShooter Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2006 Location: Surprise, Az. Posts: 766	The biggest help is to learn to shoot all A-zone hits and don't worry about speed. Speed with eventually come but accuracy takes time and practice. Go to You Tube and check out IDPA and you will get tons of information on how to improve.

February 16, 2016, 06:04 PM	#11
1-DAB Senior Member Join Date: May 5, 2010 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 474	yep, stage 3 is where you make your money. i shot a practice last week, 60 seconds, again. actually, 61.75, including down 23 (added 11.50 seconds). about average for me currently. missed T1 twice, that cost me big.

February 16, 2016, 07:27 PM	#12
9x45 Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2000 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,089	OP, as Mr. Borland said you don't need the top top guns, there are many Master s and Grand Masters at local matches, it's just I happen know those guys and have shot with them before. They would be a good contact because the competition shooting world is really not so big. __________________ Sometimes my Glock forgets where to look.....