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Hawg · August 18, 2013, 12:30 PM

You do good work Doc.

Doc Hoy · August 18, 2013, 12:48 PM

I really need to clean up that shop.

Tidewater_Kid · August 18, 2013, 12:49 PM

It does look great. Thanks for posting all the pictures. Keep em coming!

TK

Hawg · August 18, 2013, 02:17 PM

If you clean it up how are you going to find anything?

Doc Hoy · August 18, 2013, 02:55 PM

My screwdrivers are under the dust on the workbench. The files are under the metal filings near the grinder. My sizing dies are under the spilled gun powder next to the press. The chisels are under the wood shavings.

Why would I clean it up?!

Bill Akins · August 20, 2013, 05:23 AM

I can relate Doc. My shop is a mess too. I tell my wife that if I clean it up, I won't be able to find anything! Lol. Still....gotta force myself to clean it up soon as I heal up from my spine surgery....which came out great so far. Up and walking again, but light duty only, no lifting or doing much of anything. Rats, I'm itching to get out in the shop and do some work on my designs, but all I can do right now is design in my head or on paper.

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Doc Hoy · August 20, 2013, 06:00 AM

Nice to read the the cutter did a good job.

Doc Hoy · August 31, 2013, 02:11 PM

...I cleaned up the shop.

Jimmy Hoffa is safe and sound and living in Chesapeake.

Doc Hoy · September 3, 2013, 06:56 PM

All of the parts came in from Al Frasca.

I had to make a pin for the cam latch spring. Also had to turn down the firing pin screw.

It appears the screw is from some other source and is not exactly the right size to let the cam lock seat properly.

Photos at eleven.

Also got the word back from Keith Rush (Trapdoors Galore) regarding any history on serial number 485521. Unfortunately there is no record of that particular rifle. The serial number before and after went to Illinois but no record of this rifle.

He said, all he could tell is that it is a rifle. I said, "Not any more."

Doc Hoy · September 4, 2013, 01:18 PM

This is the plunger I made for the cam latch spring.

My other trapdoors don't have such a plunger but the springs are a little longer and stronger. I think this spring is not from a Trapdoor mayby not from a rifle at all.

Cut it on the lathe

Here it is in the breach block

Doc Hoy · September 5, 2013, 03:13 PM

but here are the rest of the pix.

Right side of the receiver

Port quarter

You see I cleaned up the shop a little

Doc Hoy · September 5, 2013, 03:16 PM

I probly could get away with a little work on the barrel band to make it match the rest of the rifle better.

CameronP · September 5, 2013, 06:30 PM

Doc:

I've found that one does not age when working in one's shop, although my significant other threatens my life when I over extend my shop sessions.

As an aside, I'm always amazed at the classical, functional lines of the trap door carbine.
same goes for the old Colts and Remingtons. They were all works of art.

Your project is looking good.

Doc Hoy · September 6, 2013, 05:56 AM

I agree with you on the designs of these weapons.

In a previous post I said that I like the Trapdoor over the Sharps carbine for user friendliness.

I think I need to qualify the statement by affirming that it is only true with modern brass case ammunition.

But I do love working on all of these things.

Revoltella · September 6, 2013, 06:25 AM

For someone self-taught, you have mad skills. That looks great.

Doc Hoy · September 6, 2013, 06:37 AM

Notice that I did not say how many of those plungers I made before I got one that works....

;o)

Tidewater_Kid · September 6, 2013, 07:42 PM

Doc,

It sure is turning out nice! Would you mind taking pictures of the front sight and the barrel crown?

TK

BirchOrr · September 6, 2013, 10:00 PM

...as usual!

Sweet Doc!

Birch

Doc Hoy · September 7, 2013, 02:37 PM

The muzzle crown

An out of focus photo of the sight

And another view a little better focused

Tidewater_Kid · September 7, 2013, 06:12 PM

Doc,

Thanks for posting the photos! And nice job on both by the way. I looked for a "cheap" trapdoor at the gun show today. No such luck!

TK

Doc Hoy · September 7, 2013, 06:28 PM

I was at a show today as well. It was a bust. Nobody had anything I wanted.

So I bought some ammunition. 100 rounds of .44 Magnum, 100 once fired .44 Magnum Brass. Bout a half dozen bullet boxes.

Hawg · September 7, 2013, 07:10 PM

Quote:

I looked for a "cheap" trapdoor at the gun show today. No such luck!

I can't believe you used cheap and trapdoor in the same sentence.

Tidewater_Kid · September 7, 2013, 08:56 PM

I should have said I was looking for a project rifle like Doc's. I did find Lee-Enfield I might go back tomorrow and make an offer on. I need a new project. I found some 30-40 Krag dies, so I was happy. Ammo prices are still blowing my mind, but everything normal was plentiful.

TK

August 18, 2013, 12:48 PM	#27
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks Hawgster I really need to clean up that shop. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 18, 2013, 02:55 PM	#30
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thats right! My screwdrivers are under the dust on the workbench. The files are under the metal filings near the grinder. My sizing dies are under the spilled gun powder next to the press. The chisels are under the wood shavings. Why would I clean it up?! __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 20, 2013, 05:23 AM	#31
Bill Akins Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2007 Location: Hudson, Florida Posts: 1,135	I can relate Doc. My shop is a mess too. I tell my wife that if I clean it up, I won't be able to find anything! Lol. Still....gotta force myself to clean it up soon as I heal up from my spine surgery....which came out great so far. Up and walking again, but light duty only, no lifting or doing much of anything. Rats, I'm itching to get out in the shop and do some work on my designs, but all I can do right now is design in my head or on paper. . __________________ "This is my Remy and this is my Colt. Remy loads easy and topstrap strong, Colt balances better and never feels wrong. A repro black powder revolver gun, they smoke and shoot lead and give me much fun. I can't figure out which one I like better, they're both fine revolvers that fit in my leather". "To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target".

August 20, 2013, 06:00 AM	#32
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Bill Nice to read the the cutter did a good job. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 31, 2013, 02:11 PM	#33
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	As Ronald Reagan said,"Well..." ...I cleaned up the shop. Jimmy Hoffa is safe and sound and living in Chesapeake. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

August 18, 2013, 12:30 PM	#26
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	You do good work Doc.

August 18, 2013, 12:49 PM	#28
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	It does look great. Thanks for posting all the pictures. Keep em coming! TK

August 18, 2013, 02:17 PM	#29
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	If you clean it up how are you going to find anything?

September 3, 2013, 06:56 PM	#34
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Got the remainder of the parts in from Al Frasca All of the parts came in from Al Frasca. I had to make a pin for the cam latch spring. Also had to turn down the firing pin screw. It appears the screw is from some other source and is not exactly the right size to let the cam lock seat properly. Photos at eleven. Also got the word back from Keith Rush (Trapdoors Galore) regarding any history on serial number 485521. Unfortunately there is no record of that particular rifle. The serial number before and after went to Illinois but no record of this rifle. He said, all he could tell is that it is a rifle. I said, "Not any more." __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 4, 2013, 01:18 PM	#35
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Here are the final photos This is the plunger I made for the cam latch spring. My other trapdoors don't have such a plunger but the springs are a little longer and stronger. I think this spring is not from a Trapdoor mayby not from a rifle at all. Cut it on the lathe Here it is in the breach block __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 5, 2013, 03:13 PM	#36
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Had to break away suddenly in the middle of the process yesterday, but here are the rest of the pix. Right side of the receiver Port quarter You see I cleaned up the shop a little __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 5, 2013, 03:16 PM	#37
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Last ones I probly could get away with a little work on the barrel band to make it match the rest of the rifle better. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 5, 2013, 06:30 PM	#38
CameronP Member Join Date: August 25, 2010 Location: West Jordan, Utah Posts: 71	Doc: I've found that one does not age when working in one's shop, although my significant other threatens my life when I over extend my shop sessions. As an aside, I'm always amazed at the classical, functional lines of the trap door carbine. same goes for the old Colts and Remingtons. They were all works of art. Your project is looking good.

September 6, 2013, 05:56 AM	#39
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks, CP I agree with you on the designs of these weapons. In a previous post I said that I like the Trapdoor over the Sharps carbine for user friendliness. I think I need to qualify the statement by affirming that it is only true with modern brass case ammunition. But I do love working on all of these things. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 6, 2013, 06:25 AM	#40
Revoltella Junior member Join Date: August 7, 2013 Posts: 198	For someone self-taught, you have mad skills. That looks great.

September 6, 2013, 06:37 AM	#41
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Revoltella.... Notice that I did not say how many of those plungers I made before I got one that works.... ;o) __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 6, 2013, 07:42 PM	#42
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Doc, It sure is turning out nice! Would you mind taking pictures of the front sight and the barrel crown? TK

September 6, 2013, 10:00 PM	#43
BirchOrr Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Location: Eaton Rapids, MI Posts: 445	The project looks great... ...as usual! Sweet Doc! Birch __________________ Black Powder: Not because it is easy, but because it is hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win...

September 7, 2013, 02:37 PM	#44
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Thanks fellas and photos as requested The muzzle crown An out of focus photo of the sight And another view a little better focused __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 7, 2013, 06:12 PM	#45
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	Doc, Thanks for posting the photos! And nice job on both by the way. I looked for a "cheap" trapdoor at the gun show today. No such luck! TK

September 7, 2013, 06:28 PM	#46
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	TK..... I was at a show today as well. It was a bust. Nobody had anything I wanted. So I bought some ammunition. 100 rounds of .44 Magnum, 100 once fired .44 Magnum Brass. Bout a half dozen bullet boxes. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

September 7, 2013, 08:56 PM	#48
Tidewater_Kid Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 925	I should have said I was looking for a project rifle like Doc's. I did find Lee-Enfield I might go back tomorrow and make an offer on. I need a new project. I found some 30-40 Krag dies, so I was happy. Ammo prices are still blowing my mind, but everything normal was plentiful. TK