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Old June 3, 2011, 12:03 PM   #1
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can you help me identify my Mauser



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that systems of mechanisms made? whatever became? Estan made in Oberndorf. Recorded with one " N".

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Old June 3, 2011, 01:48 PM   #2
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Ezell's "Pistols of the World" has a little bit of info on these; Josef Nickl was an engineer with Mauser who designed several handguns during WW1 that would later be developed into the Czech VZ22 and VZ24 pistols. When the Czechs were equipping their military after gaining independence from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, they bought Mauser machinery for the factory in Brno, and Nickl was sent along to get the factory up and running; he continued his work on these pistols there, leading to the VZ22 and 24. Your pistol looks like it dates from the First World War, as Ezell shows one (serial number 22) in 9mm, with the same sort of cocking lugs on the slide that was built in 1916. Very few of these would have been made, as Mauser already had successful designs in production, and the NIckl design didn't offer anything over those existing pistols.
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Old June 7, 2011, 11:11 AM   #3
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thanks. More data??.
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Old June 7, 2011, 12:16 PM   #4
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Ezell also notes that those pistols were in 9mm Parabellum (9mm Luger) and had rotating barrels, similar in that respect to the Steyr-Hahn. Like the one pictured here, the #22 mentioned by SDC has a flat slide, but whether from some mechanical change (like larger locking lugs) or for aesthetic reasons, Nickl modifed the slide to a more cylindrical shape and changed the retracting lugs to slanted cuts in the slide (Serial number 29, Ezell, P. 574). The Czechs carried the rotating barrel system over to their Vz.22 and Vz.24, even though those pistols were in 9x17 (9mm Browning Short or .380 ACP), and the need for a locked breech was dubious. Later, of course, they eliminated the rotating barrel completely for a 7.65mm Browning caliber pistol, the well-known Vz.27, made in vast quantities under German control.

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Old June 12, 2011, 05:59 PM   #5
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Mauser pistol made by Josef Nickl in Oberndorf date subsequent to the 1914 and previous one to the 1920. It owns numeration uneven of two digits and alternate with the pistol Mauser Nickl " II" . Furthermore it counts on evident mechanical differences with respect to the same pistol.


Example of numeration

to mauser Nickl " I" 2n+1
to mauser Nickl " II" 2n+2
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Old June 12, 2011, 06:05 PM   #6
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Mauser pistol made by Josef Nickl in Oberndorf date subsequent to the 1914 and previous one to the 1920. It owns numeration uneven of two digits and alternate with the pistol Mauser Nickl " II" . Furthermore it counts on evident mechanical differences with respect to the same pistol.


Example of numeration

to mauser Nickl " I" 2n+1
to mauser Nickl " II" 2n+2

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Old October 16, 2012, 11:41 AM   #7
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Confirmed, thanks to a friend.

I borrowed several books of weapons .... even the "Mauser Pistolen" 2008.

It turned out that the pistol is not documented in any book.

Since the system has no rotating barrel.

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