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Old August 7, 2020, 10:24 AM   #1
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Is a 16" 10/22 barrel. Legal

I feel like a teenager all over again; Gas is cheap and I'm grounded..

Anyway, have taken this opportunity to clean up some old gun-stuff. Ran across a 16" threaded barrel, for a 10/22. My question/concerns is if it's legal to mount it on a standard carbine stock or even a collapsible/folding stock? I'm sure there are a number or If's and Buts, so what say you ??

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Old August 7, 2020, 10:53 AM   #2
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Federal law is that a “Rifle” barrel must be a MINIMUM of 16”. There are a bunch of aftermarket barrels for the 10/22 that are right at the min length.

So, barring any strange State law, you should be fine.
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Old August 7, 2020, 01:02 PM   #3
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Federal law requires 16" barrel for rifle (plus a total overall length) or its an NFA item.

STATE laws can be different. NY requires an 18" barrel min for rifles (with certain exceptions).

Check your State's laws, carefully.
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Old August 7, 2020, 01:50 PM   #4
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You might want to use a measuring tape to be sure that the actual length is ok. As I recall, the infamous Ruby Ridge fiasco started with a sting in which a barrel had been cut off 1/4 inch too short. I am not saying you could be facing a federal sting, but I am saying fractions of an inch matter in this regard.
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Old August 7, 2020, 03:38 PM   #5
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Factory barrel !!!

Most of us are aware f what happened at Ruby-Ridge and for 1/4 of an inch his wife and dog were killed.

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Of course not !!!

This barrel is a factory barrel.

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Old August 7, 2020, 06:08 PM   #6
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You also mentioned a folding stock. Be careful that the overall length of the firearm with the stock folded doesn't create a problem. I'm not going to look that up for you -- I'm on a portable computer using cell data for Internet due to a power outage at the moment.

Personally, I would stay away from a 16-inch barrel. 16 inches is legal ... but 15-7/8 inches is not legal.
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Old August 7, 2020, 06:26 PM   #7
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Standard barrel lengths are 20" in the 10/22 Rifle, 18 1⁄2 " in the 10/22 Carbine, and 16 1⁄8 " in the 10/22 Compact Rifle. Your barrel must be the Compact barrel?
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Old August 7, 2020, 06:39 PM   #8
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Never heard of as compact ???

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Your barrel must be the Compact barrel?
Could be, Mike but up till now, have never seen one. Was there a 10/22 compact rifle? Again, this has a threaded barrel so I'm thinking it has to be fairly current. Interesting !!!

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Old August 7, 2020, 08:14 PM   #9
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The Ruger 10/22 Tactical comes with a threaded 16-1/8” barrel. It is legal...pending any local restrictions.



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Are you sure it is not 16.5 inch? I personally have not seen a 10/22 barrel right at 16". Shorter, yes - for the Charger but not right at 16".
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Are you sure it is not 16.5 inch? I personally have not seen a 10/22 barrel right at 16". Shorter, yes - for the Charger but not right at 16".
Did you look at the image attached to the post immediately above yours?
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Old August 8, 2020, 09:30 AM   #12
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You also mentioned a folding stock. Be careful that the overall length of the firearm with the stock folded doesn't create a problem. I'm not going to look that up for you -- I'm on a portable computer using cell data for Internet due to a power outage at the moment.
Folding stocks on a rifle are measured with the stock deployed. Only braces on pistols and “firearms” are required to measure OAL with the brace folded.
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Old August 8, 2020, 10:12 AM   #13
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16+, it is !!!

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The Ruger 10/22 Tactical comes with a threaded 16-1/8” barrel. It is legal...pending any local restrictions.
Thanks "Nimrod". I consider myself, fairly current on the 10/22 but till now had never seen one of these. The main feature that I wondered about, was the threaded barrel and now it makes more sense.

This is definitely going on one of my standard carbine wooden stock. ....

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Folding stocks on a rifle are measured with the stock deployed. Only braces on pistols and “firearms” are required to measure OAL with the brace folded.
This is NOT universally accurate. Some local laws require different measuring specs. Too, I believe the BATF rule states “collapsible stocks” and “stock extended” - do folding stocks apply, or just telescoping stocks? Regardless, getting legal advice from an internet forum is reckless, especially with a potential $10,000 fine and a 10 year prison sentence.

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Old August 8, 2020, 02:04 PM   #15
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We're not talking about pistols and shotguns here. We're talking about one rifle.
...In a standard stock.

Harping on other aspects of stupid definitions serves no purpose here.


16"(+) barrels are legal on rifles, at a Federal level.
If Pahoo lives in a state that has other restrictions, that's up to him to research.
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We're not talking about pistols and shotguns here. We're talking about one rifle.
...In a standard stock.
No, the original post also raised the question of a "folding" (not collapsible) stock.
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Old August 9, 2020, 01:31 PM   #17
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Post #13 returned to a standard stock:
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This is definitely going on one of my standard carbine wooden stock. ....
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Stick a dowel or cleaning rod down the barrel till it touches a closed bolt. Accurately measure that length on the dowel/rod. That is the barrel length.

I think from a functional point of view, 16" shows maximum efficiency in burning all the powder in a 22 LR shell and gets the most velocity possible.
22 rifles like CFs get more velocity from ammo than handguns.

Longer barrel(much more than 16")?? probably loses some velocity. Im not a ballistitician as you can see.
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.22 LR typically reaches peak efficiency at 12-14" for most loads.
Beyond 18", most loads start losing velocity.

Blow-back semi-autos neuter performance a little bit, but not terribly.
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I don't know why they didn't go beyond 18 inches, unless that's the length that produced maximum velocity.
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Old September 1, 2020, 03:52 PM   #21
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I feel like a teenager all over again; Gas is cheap and I'm grounded..

Anyway, have taken this opportunity to clean up some old gun-stuff. Ran across a 16" threaded barrel, for a 10/22. My question/concerns is if it's legal to mount it on a standard carbine stock or even a collapsible/folding stock? I'm sure there are a number or If's and Buts, so what say you ??

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I used to check the paper every day and if anything interesting came up, I'd try to get it. I got a lot of really good pieces that way. Anyway this .22Mag Mare's Leg (that short rifle Steve McQueen carried) came up and I bought it. It's a pretty dumb little lever action sort of pistol. It's a Henry, and they'll sell you a butt stock to make a rifle. Now it's workable, but the barrel's too short. Prohibited just because I changed the stock. Makes me so mad I could spit. I have other words I'll keep to myself.
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