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Old November 20, 2018, 03:35 PM   #1
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I’ve seen these Tac 13-14s floating around recently. And YES...I know it is really just a toy or a breach gun with almost no use. But I also like to experiment. I’ve seen the silly chainsaw grip on the Mossie. But has anyone ever put the “side grip” like from a drill on one of these? It might actually make it a bit easier to bring up and fire with 2 hands. I’d like to experiment on one of these...but they are so expensive. And if you are curious what I’m talking about still:



And yes...being realistic? The only effective thing I’ve seen on these is the “pistol brace” stock which to ME...makes it a legitimate close in choice.


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Old November 20, 2018, 05:17 PM   #2
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I don't use any of my shotguns as hammer drills and have no
need for such grips.
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Old November 20, 2018, 06:27 PM   #3
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I think that may be illegal. They would consider it a vertcal foregrip.
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Old November 20, 2018, 08:44 PM   #4
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The best way to handle a PGO is to put a regular stock on it. BTDT over 30 years ago.
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Old November 20, 2018, 10:26 PM   #5
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I think that may be illegal. They would consider it a vertcal foregrip.


Vertical fore grip is illegal? I mean technically it is horizontal and perpendicular. Lol


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Old November 21, 2018, 06:27 AM   #6
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The PGO's fall into a strange classification.
With an AR Pistol configuration, adding a vertical foregrip makes it a SBR and requires a tax stamp.
I don't know if adding a vertical fore grip to the PGO would make it a SBS or not.

I wouldn't want to be the guy who tests the courts on this issue.
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Old November 21, 2018, 08:23 AM   #7
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With an AR Pistol configuration, adding a vertical foregrip makes it a SBR and requires a tax stamp.

Because it is a pistol (designed to be fired with “one hand”), and you are putting a device that makes your second hand come into play...

Anything pistol related, no vertical grips. You convert to SBR, then you can.

Shotgun, rifle, and even the current firearms (TAC-14, Shockwave)... none are pistols. Black Aces even puts vertical grips on most of their firearms, so no issue unless it is considered a pistol.
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Old November 21, 2018, 08:50 AM   #8
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thank for the clarification.
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Old November 21, 2018, 03:19 PM   #9
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A pistol with vertical grip is not an SBR- it would be classified "Any Other Weapon"
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A pistol with vertical grip is not an SBR- it would be classified "Any Other Weapon"

That is correct...

I’ve been looking over the PTR 9CT lately, and debating SBRing it. Had it on the brain.
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Old November 23, 2018, 03:31 PM   #11
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Without an awful lot of training, PGO shotguns are more useless than useful.
Yes, I own a Mossberg "Cruiser" and I actually used a PGO Stevens 20 ga. as a "car gun" for many years.
I also have a "real" pistol grip shotgun.
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Wow, Direwolf!
You sure know a lot about guns! Do all experts call shotguns "shottys?"
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I’ve seen these Tac 13-14s floating around recently. And YES...I know it is really just a toy or a breach gun with almost no use. But I also like to experiment. I’ve seen the silly chainsaw grip on the Mossie. But has anyone ever put the “side grip” like from a drill on one of these? It might actually make it a bit easier to bring up and fire with 2 hands. I’d like to experiment on one of these...but they are so expensive. And if you are curious what I’m talking about still:



And yes...being realistic? The only effective thing I’ve seen on these is the “pistol brace” stock which to ME...makes it a legitimate close in choice.


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Actually with a pistol brace and low recoil shells, these guns are very handy. Think SBS without the NFA drama.

Suarez even makes a folding brace for the TAC 14 and TAC 13. I've got a TAC 14 set up that way, with Suarez' folding brace and a Holosun red dot, and it's a hoot!
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