The Numbers Game

**Aguila Blanca** · October 7, 2020, 10:45 PM

We've all been hearing about shortages of ammunition and shortages of guns, and we're probably all wondering when it's going to end, and just how much of the crunch is real.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) tracks these things. I just received a link to one of their industry analysis reports. The link doesn't appear to require NSSF membership to access, so I'll post it here. If you want to see why you can't find that new MegaBlaster XYZ you've been wishing for -- the numbers in this report may help you understand why.

Be prepared -- there are a LOT of numbers, and they're sliced and diced in a variety of ways. It isn't a light read, but it is enlightening.

https://nssfpdf.s3.amazonaws.com/Onl...ewSept2020.pdf

TXAZ · October 7, 2020, 11:08 PM

Waaaaaay too much information

But really interesting.
But what’s going on Pennsylvania? They’re out buying Texans big time!
Almost like NYC residents are going to the Keystone state for weapons to compensate for NYPD losing $1B in funding.

ballardw · October 7, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TXAZ

Waaaaaay too much information

But really interesting.
But what’s going on Pennsylvania? They’re out buying Texans big time!
Almost like NYC residents are going to the Keystone state for weapons to compensate for NYPD losing $1B in funding.

The easiest way to get a big percent increase is to have a small previous value.

I would say that some folks near Pittsburgh and Philadelphia had there eyes opened about relying on police for protection earlier this year.

I thought it was interesting that in this report you have women paying about $50 more then men for Glock 19s. I wonder if that means the women decided to purchase later after the prices started going up.

ghbucky · October 8, 2020, 08:01 AM

I don't think its been pointed out yet, but this is exclusively reporting on sales through gunbroker.

I have no idea how much of the actual market that represents, but I would have to think it is a pretty small segment.

gaseousclay · October 8, 2020, 08:18 AM

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I don't think its been pointed out yet, but this is exclusively reporting on sales through gunbroker.

I have no idea how much of the actual market that represents, but I would have to think it is a pretty small segment.

Agreed, especially since a lot of gun purchases were from first time buyers. If I were a first time buyer I’d buy at a brick and mortar.

**Aguila Blanca** · October 8, 2020, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ghbucky

I don't think its been pointed out yet, but this is exclusively reporting on sales through gunbroker.

Good catch. I got so involved diving right into the numbers that I didn't bother to read the source information.

Ignition Override · October 11, 2020, 04:24 PM

Aguila Blanca:

Thanks very much for the huge link.

It's too much transmit in a text to two friends. We have weak cell service.

Ignition Override · October 11, 2020, 04:33 PM

TXAZ:
I would be surprised if it's easy for a NY to get a handgun shipped from a PA FFL to a NY FFL (outside NYC), >> in case << NY residents are not allowed to drive to a PA FFL for a handgun purchase.

I have no idea about the legal possibilities.

Many NY residents might be buying a handgun, in person, from friends who Live in PA? Could be.

ghbucky · October 11, 2020, 04:34 PM

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>> in case << NY residents are not allowed to drive to a PA FFL

That is illegal by federal law. Only long guns can be bought outside your resident state.

October 7, 2020, 10:45 PM	#1
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	The Numbers Game We've all been hearing about shortages of ammunition and shortages of guns, and we're probably all wondering when it's going to end, and just how much of the crunch is real. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) tracks these things. I just received a link to one of their industry analysis reports. The link doesn't appear to require NSSF membership to access, so I'll post it here. If you want to see why you can't find that new MegaBlaster XYZ you've been wishing for -- the numbers in this report may help you understand why. Be prepared -- there are a LOT of numbers, and they're sliced and diced in a variety of ways. It isn't a light read, but it is enlightening. https://nssfpdf.s3.amazonaws.com/Onl...ewSept2020.pdf __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

October 7, 2020, 11:08 PM	#2
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Waaaaaay too much information But really interesting. But what’s going on Pennsylvania? They’re out buying Texans big time! Almost like NYC residents are going to the Keystone state for weapons to compensate for NYPD losing $1B in funding. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

October 8, 2020, 08:01 AM	#4
ghbucky Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2020 Posts: 1,177	I don't think its been pointed out yet, but this is exclusively reporting on sales through gunbroker. I have no idea how much of the actual market that represents, but I would have to think it is a pretty small segment.

October 11, 2020, 04:24 PM	#7
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	Aguila Blanca: Thanks very much for the huge link. It's too much transmit in a text to two friends. We have weak cell service.

October 11, 2020, 04:33 PM	#8
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	TXAZ: I would be surprised if it's easy for a NY to get a handgun shipped from a PA FFL to a NY FFL (outside NYC), >> in case << NY residents are not allowed to drive to a PA FFL for a handgun purchase. I have no idea about the legal possibilities. Many NY residents might be buying a handgun, in person, from friends who Live in PA? Could be.