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November 24, 2021, 06:06 PM | #1 |
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Shipping guns via FedEx to FFL: questions
1. Am I required to declare to FedEx that I'm shipping a firearm at the time of shipment the same way I must declare a gun when checking baggage at the airport?
1.50 does FedEx charge any more money to ship guns than other types of cargo as slippers or TV sets using the same type of service? 2. Is it true that FedEx will not ship a handgun Ground from a non-licensed individual? 3. What FedEx service must I use if shipping a handgun as a non-licensed individual? 4. should I have the license number of the FFL I'm shipping to in case the carrier asks for it? 5. is there anything else a private individual should know about gun shipping? Last edited by AlongCameJones; November 24, 2021 at 08:16 PM. |
November 24, 2021, 06:17 PM | #2 |
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1 - Yes, and if it is a storefront FFL, they will know when they pull up the address
2 - Not to my knowledge - weight, box size counts plus value 3- overnight, use your FFL, he can use USPS for a lot less 4 -it can't hurt 5- yes NEVER put any name with GUN in it on the label. I have always shipped to the buyer's name, C/O the FFL's name (not billy bob's Gun store, but Billy Smith) and then the FFL address. While the counter clerk might know, and in some cases the delivery person might know, the rest of the "handlers alone the way" do not need to know
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November 24, 2021, 08:08 PM | #3 |
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3- overnight, use your FFL, he can use USPS for a lot less
If my local gun shop is even willing to do this for me and he might charge a fee above shipping rates. He is a for-profit entity, not a charity. I have just emailed my local FFL about this. Stay tuned. Naturally, I want to get the lowest shipping costs possible. Being a non-licensee puts me through a lot of bureaucratic hoops already. I plan to ship guns in their original box or case from the factory they came in. They have trademarks on them. FedEx at their website says any markings indicating a firearm (eg. Ruger or Mossberg trademarks) should be covered. Whenever I picked up guns at my FFL, the boxes were never wrapped. |
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November 25, 2021, 02:48 AM | #5 |
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I just got a late email reply from my local gun shop's owner named Josh regarding shipping services.
"Unfortunately we don’t offer this service we don’t have time. You might have better luck with a smaller FFL who has the time and man power. Thank you." All this dealer wants to do is sell guns (at no less than full mfr. listed retail) and collect big transfer fees all day long. I have used this dealer above to do 7 paid FFL transfers for me over the past two years for guns I've bought online myself. They charge $40 per gun transfer. My town in SW Oklahoma is Lawton near Fort Sill army post. This is a small town with mostly pawn shops. I doubt the pawn shops want to mess with shipping. I don't know what to do. My online handgun buyer is just going to have to pay the price for FedEx overnight shipping by me, I guess. Or come in person to my home to pick the gun up. Extra! I've just discovered ShipMyGun.com online while doing a Google search. I've emailed them to see how they might help me. Bud'sGunShop.com runs this service. Last edited by AlongCameJones; November 25, 2021 at 03:18 AM. |
November 25, 2021, 06:19 AM | #6 |
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Read the firearms shipping guide on GB. It explains everything.
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November 25, 2021, 10:26 AM | #7 |
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Just an added bit of info:
If you are shipping a gun to an FFL to do a transfer to a buyer, be SURE to put the buyer's name on the label somewhere. Either Bill Buyer c/o FFL or ATTN: Bill Buyer. Otherwise the FFL is going to have no idea who the package is for.
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November 25, 2021, 07:30 PM | #8 |
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Some, if not most, FFLs in my area will no longer help a customer ship out a gun. They say it is too much trouble. Furthermore, I understand that Fedex has recently stopped shipping for non-FFLs. (Can someone confirm that? I see conflicting info on the internet). Non-FFLs cannot use the post office to ship a gun. That leaves only UPS. I understand that you are required to go to a regional UPS shipping center, not your local UPS store. For a handgun, UPS requires overnight shipping, which costs about $80. USP clerks in my area will require proof that the recipient is an FFL.
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Correction: A non-FFL can certainly ship a long gun USPS. I've done it many times, and not surreptitiously. Handguns, you must be a FFL. Mine will still do it if I ask, and since you can use a fixed rate Priority Mail box, it's the cheapest way to go. That said, I now take handguns to a LGS on consignment. This shop charges 20% of the sale price, but it is very convenient. They have gotten good prices on the several they've sold for me. Could I have done better on Gunbroker? Maybe, and I still sell the occasional long gun there, but I go this route if I'm "unloading" a pistol.
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Forget FedEx
FedEx recently changed its policies. Now only FFL's enrolled with their shipping program may ship firearms using FedEx.
https://www.fedex.com/content/dam/fe...nd_US_2021.pdf Quote:
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I just shipped a handgun using UPS. You have to go to their regional office, not the local store. You may want to check with the company you are shipping to. They may pay shipping both ways if it's for repair.
A gun has to be shipped 2nd Day Air which adds to the expense. I had to prove it was going to an FFL dealer by getting a copy of their FFL to give to UPS. |
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Since FedEx no longer allows firearm shipments except by enrolled FFL's, then lets look at the UPS firearm shipping policy: https://www.ups.com/us/en/support/sh.../firearms.page Quote:
UPS tariffs permit rifles and shotguns to be shipped as "Ground". (as did FedEx) Quote:
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Seems to me that the Op's questions ought to be directed to Fed Ex, not people on this forum.
Fed Ex and UPS are PRIVATE shipping companies, they can set about any requirements they wish over and above what Federal law requires. Thanks to Federal rules and laws, we're pretty much stuck with having to do what ever the private shippers require and pay what ever they charge for the privilege of doing so.
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Judging by the recent news stories about a large number of FedEx packages found dumped in a ravine, I would hold off using them until they provide a proper explanation.
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Then again, folks ignore shipping tariffs and USPS regs every day. If S&W doesn't tell the carrier what's in the box, the carrier doesn't know what's in the box.
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You can still ship a firearm via Fedex
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See page 8 https://www.fedex.com/content/dam/fe...nd_US_2021.pdf
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December 7, 2021, 05:23 PM | #21 |
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I have a C&R and shipped off a few things as I am unloading the collection. Handguns are complicated and I think that a dealer is often the best hassle free way for them, fees included.
Gunbroker offers a breakdown of dealers in various areas who will handle this. Average appears to be $25-30. |
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I just sent a gun via FedEx on Monday, it has been delivered to Springfield at 10:35 this morning.
Maybe the rules are different if it's going to the manufacturer. The label said: FedEx 2Day-Deliver Weekday, Direct Signature Required
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Shipping guns via Fedex to FFL: questions
I tried to send a gun I had to a gunsmith who is an FFL, fedex would not ship it,
said it had to be shipped by a FFL, and that this is a NEW POLICY, some 7 days old. Then had to go to regional UPS, not the storefront UPS, who charged $80 for overnite, which is the only way they will ship it. Sounds like you either ship pieces by separate mail, or get your FFL to ship for you. Failing that, time for the politicians to rise UP!!! |
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FedEx employees and agents (just as any business' employees and agents) will make mistakes or misunderstand their employers policies or otherwise screw up. So the guy at the counter could get it wrong, and therefore your personal experience with a busness cannot be taken as conclusive evidence of what the business' rules are.
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The driver pulls up to S&W, the sender addy is SAW and their MA address. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what might be inside
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