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Old July 29, 2020, 02:12 PM   #1
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No way this primer is real!?

A friend of mine found this round behind one of his safes in his fathers old shop. The primer appears to be melted lead? Anyone wanna test fire it to let me know if it works!?
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Old July 29, 2020, 02:14 PM   #2
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Could have been a primer that started sideways and was pressed it.
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Old July 29, 2020, 02:17 PM   #3
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Could have been a primer that started sideways and was pressed it.
Not "could have been." It is. It's a primer inserted sideways.
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Old July 29, 2020, 02:27 PM   #4
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Yep, someone or something made a mistake and the primer went in wrong. The loader didn't see it and smashed it in.
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Old July 29, 2020, 02:38 PM   #5
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Well that all makes sense thanks guys
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Old July 29, 2020, 03:04 PM   #6
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Its real, its a primer seated "sideways". I've done it myself...
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Old July 29, 2020, 08:34 PM   #7
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Yep.
Sideways primer.
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Old July 29, 2020, 10:04 PM   #8
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I've done it, too many times. I've also put one in upside down. It was fun trying to press the upside down primer out. I wore ear plugs and an electricians arc flash blast shield when I pressed it out. It did not go bang, luckily.
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Old July 30, 2020, 10:09 AM   #9
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yep sideways, if you haven't done it yet someday you will
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Old July 30, 2020, 10:44 AM   #10
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I have done that, as well. My straight wall case press is a Dillon and I've always stayed with CCI primers. 'Cept, as everybody knows, primers are in short supply so, I bought some Remington primers. And, I've gotten some "tipped" primers. Plus primers not feeding into to shellholder.

Sure enough, from the Dillon website:
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the dimensional variations on most brands of primer have increased
Which, is to say, tolerances have gotten sloppier on "most" brands.
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Old July 30, 2020, 11:45 AM   #11
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Ike - did your friend look for a dent in the wall just above the safe? I can see the father throwing the round away after seeing what he did.

By the way, sorry to hear about your brother Billy. I guess he messed with the wrong men.


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Old July 30, 2020, 01:16 PM   #12
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I've made a few of these treasures myself. As opposed to a backwards primer, these cannot be salvaged...at least not by me. I set one off trying, and no longer attempt it. Interesting, it's only happened to me when priming on the press...never when hand priming.
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Old July 30, 2020, 03:04 PM   #13
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Well I never made one! Several, now that's a different story. But not one.
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Old July 30, 2020, 04:13 PM   #14
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I've done a few sideways, but never completely backwards, yet anyways. I've also been successful in removing those sideways primer, carefully, but successful. If I get more than normal resistance when seating a primer, I try and stop in time before it's all messed up and have to deal with the issue.
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Old July 30, 2020, 05:19 PM   #15
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I've done every evil thing someone can do to a primer, But I Never Set One Off!
So I'm proud of that!
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Old July 30, 2020, 11:29 PM   #16
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I've done every evil thing someone can do to a primer, But I Never Set One Off! So I'm proud of that!
Of course, now you know what is going to happen tomorrow
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Old July 31, 2020, 09:45 AM   #17
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Here's an example of why I prefer to seat primers by hand away from the bench.

Not because this hasn't happened to me with my Lyman hand primer, as it has - very rarely, but it has. But because my process of looking over the case and the primer seating before the shell goes into the press to be charged & loaded would catch the issue if I hadn't already caught it whilst priming.

If this had happened on my turret press, there is a greater chance I might not have noticed the problem.

Quality of process over speed & output quantity.
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Old August 1, 2020, 09:50 AM   #18
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I too prefer hand priming off the press, but I’ve never had a problem with the Lee Classic cast turret. The primer ram is very visible so it’s easy to check that the primer is in the cup correctly. As an extra precaution when I remove the loaded round I always do a quick visual check of the primer before tossing it in the bin. I check it to make sure I did put a primer in, and that it’s not seated high.
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The reason it's behind the safe is the maker was disgusted with himself and tossed it. In 15 years of handloading, I haven't done it YET, but I try to be quite careful using my RCBS Universal Priming Tool, love that thing. I load small amounts at a time, 50, maybe 100 rounds.
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Old August 2, 2020, 05:08 AM   #20
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Primers can't be seated sideways . I mean who would be so unaware of what they were doing to seat primers sideways ?



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I try to be quite careful using my RCBS Universal Priming Tool, love that thing.
I took that picture to show my avg failure rate of my Hornady hand primer , THAT THING SUCKED !!!! With my big gorilla hands half the time I couldn't tell if they were hard to seat or going in sideways . The problem with the Hornady design was once the primer is started there's no getting the case out until it's fully seated . Even if I thought they were sideways I had to keep going to get the case out .

I since bought two RCBS universal hand primers keeping each one dedicated to large or small primers and love them .
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Old August 2, 2020, 09:36 AM   #21
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Maybe I'm lucky, but I too, have yet to seat a primer sideways. But then I have only been reloading metallic for about 30 years. Using either my RCBS hand primer or the RCBS bench primer, I look and see that the primer is orientated correctly before I attempt to seat it. Similar to looking in the case to make sure there is powder or the correct amount of powder in it before seating a bullet.

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Old August 2, 2020, 10:20 AM   #22
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LOL--I've yet to load one sideways--but I have done a couple upside down which is probably worse.
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Old August 4, 2020, 05:12 PM   #23
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I've loaded a few sideways. I use a Lee hand primer. It feels different pushing the primer in; but by the time you realize there's a problem, it's too late.

I'm usually pretty good about checking the orientation of the primer before I insert the case. Usually. One of the advantages of age, I suppose, is I tend to be more patient. I'm pretty good about checking for primer orientation (and for a clear primer pocket) these days. Haven't put one in sideways in quite a while.

I've never inserted a primer upside-down. Not bragging. I'm more lucky than good.
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Old August 4, 2020, 06:09 PM   #24
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I can't believe you've never got a primer sideways ... I knew what it was instantly !
Done it quite a few times ... go easy and they can be deprimed and not pop .
Done that quite a few times too !
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Old August 4, 2020, 08:38 PM   #25
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Yep. It happens. Usually in LR. Deprime it. Do not use that primer. Wear safety goggles and hit if with a sledgehammer if you want. But it will never fulfill its mission.
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