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Old August 15, 2017, 12:40 PM   #26
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Carbon rings on your cylinder face can come off very easily with lead away , its a square rag you can use as a patch of to wipe away burn marks , comes off so easy , use on Stainless Steel firearms ,will remove blueing if rubbed to hard. It does just wipe the burn rings away like magic.
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Old August 15, 2017, 05:06 PM   #27
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Old August 15, 2017, 07:31 PM   #28
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Solvents,oils,preservatives.

Hello Pep in Ca,
Hoppe's is good I use it but I also use BlueWonder gun cleaner. This stuff is GREAT to clean your barrel. You will not believe how good this stuff works!! It is a gel so it says on the brush. This is what I do. I clean with Hoppe's#9 first. Barrel looks clean. Then I use BlueWonder gun cleaner & WOW!! You should see all the flowing that comes out of the barrel! Now you will see a real mirror clean bore! I kid you not! They web sit is www.BlueWonder.us. You can also get it from MIDWAYUSA. I would give it a try. I am sure you will like it. Good luck. And post back & let us all know what you went with & how you did. Thanks. Volkstrm.
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Old August 19, 2017, 07:12 PM   #29
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Update from the OP.

My bottle of M-Pro 7 gun cleaner arrived today from Amazon. As a test, I used it to clean my Glock semi-auto and my S&W revolver. I had already cleaned both guns -- CLP on the Glock and Ballistol on the S&W. I wanted to see how much more carbon the M-Pro 7 would remove from my already "clean" guns.

The results were positive. The M-Pro 7 removed quite a bit of leftover carbon from my Glock. Not so much from my S&W. I would say that M-Pro 7 is a much better cleaner than CLP and slightly better than Ballistol.

However, M-Pro 7 did not remove the dark smudges on the frame of my S&W. They are merely cosmetic, so that is not a big deal, but I can't give M-Pro 7 five stars for that reason.

After cleaning, I applied Rig liquid on metal parts for lubrication and protection. My guns are in much better shape than previously.

I should add that using a separate cleaner instead of an all-in-one product is the better way to go. It was always a pain removing excess CLP or Ballistol. The excess M-Pro 7 was quick and easy to remove.

I might try some of the other suggested products in the future, especially the lead away mentioned by cw308 for the carbon rings on the revolver.

Cheers.

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Old September 1, 2017, 03:54 PM   #30
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Pep,

how often do you clean your guns?
I have never experienced such severe fouling as you have described it on any of my revolvers nor pistols. Simple oil, I don't even care which one, will do a proper cleaning job in combination with a nylon brush and a dentist pick for the corners.
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Old September 1, 2017, 10:12 PM   #31
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Lone Rider,

It depends. For my revolver, it is the same day I shot it at the range (mostly). It's a .22LR that I bought for practice so I put a lot of rounds through it. It gets dirty enough to clean after every range session. For my other guns, I clean them after about 250 rounds of practice shooting or when they seem to need it.

I use a nylon brush to scrub internal areas of my guns but as I mentioned earlier, I had to scrape off the carbon buildup on my revolver. That told me my solvent was not working well or at all.

Shouldn't a solvent dissolve such carbon?
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Old September 1, 2017, 10:40 PM   #32
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It makes it easier to remove. I've never found any solvent that will completely remove carbon buildup like the buildup around the barrel/cylinder gap in a revolver.
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Old September 1, 2017, 11:08 PM   #33
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Then I need a dental pick. Actually I have one. I use it to remove popcorn kernels from my gums. I don't think I want to use the same pick to clean carbon buildup from my guns.
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Old September 1, 2017, 11:46 PM   #34
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A dental pick is not really ideal.

There are tools out there that work pretty well.
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Shot-Bras.../dp/B008PL87BK

I made my own.

It started as a brass rod. I filled a screwdriver/wedge on one end that can be used as a scraper and a round tip on the other than can be used as a pick. It's easy to touch it up with a file if it gets damaged or worn.

You could do the same thing with a piece of plastic, I suppose, or maybe even a piece of hardwood.
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Old September 2, 2017, 12:17 AM   #35
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Very good advice. Thank you!
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Old September 2, 2017, 12:18 AM   #36
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John, thanks for the advice, but I can't avoid thinking that a solvent should act as a sovlent. That is, it should dissolve substances so they can be easily wiped away clean. If a "cleaner" doesn't do that, it is not a solvent.

I'm actually not looking for a better picking tool. I'm looking for a better solvent. Nevertheless, I appreciate your advice and help.
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Old September 2, 2017, 12:28 AM   #37
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That is, it should dissolve substances so they can be easily wiped away clean. If a "cleaner" doesn't do that, it is not a solvent.
I've tried a lot of carbon solvents/cleaners and the two best I've found so far are the MPro-7/Hoppes Elite (which are basically the same thing) and one that is no longer on the market.

I certainly haven't tried all of them though--if you find a better one I would certainly like to know about it.

Maybe try the Blue Wonder stuff volkstrm recommended. That's one I haven't gotten around to.
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Old September 2, 2017, 12:47 AM   #38
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Fair enough, John. As I mentioned before, I'm trying MPro-7 at the moment. I haven't used it much yet so I don't have an objective opinion on it. I'll try Blue Wonder next and see how it compares.

And of course, I'll let you and the forum members know. It might be awhile though.
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Old September 2, 2017, 01:36 PM   #39
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Save your money, blue wonder will leave you wondering why you bought it!!!

I think I might have a full tube of it laying around somewhere, if I can find it and you really want to try it out...

Personally I think it's a bad joke that someone thought they would play on gun owners. Total waste of time and money if you ask me.
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Old September 2, 2017, 05:10 PM   #40
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Hoppes#9 works best on my S&W 5906 and Mod 65 , use CLP on 9mm Shield
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Old September 3, 2017, 04:02 AM   #41
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I'm currently testing dish washing liquid in my barrels for carbon removal and it does seem to work.

I came upon it having read that also Hoppe's Elite contains surfactants (tensides).
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Peroxide is the answer to carbon,
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