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View Poll Results: In general, which is better for home defense: a semiautomatic or revolver handgun?
Revolver 29 43.28%
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Old December 9, 2018, 04:22 PM   #51
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I never bought in to stats professing to tell me what my next firefight is going to look like or how many assailants are going to be involved.
Next? So you have already been involved in a firefight? I assume non-military firefight? So how did things work out?

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Old December 9, 2018, 04:33 PM   #52
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Person A is woke up gets his gun enters the hall way to meet person B each person has a gun pointed at the other one is auto the other a double action both guns are loaded at three feet both A and B pull the trigger but none of the guns go off with guns still pointed only one gun is to go again .
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Old December 9, 2018, 05:46 PM   #53
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Reloadin, actually I've been involved in a few but most involved me getting shot at. Not that it is particularly relevant to this thread but in a nutshell in the last one I was grazed in two places by an assailant with a full auto MAC-10, he was wounded, an FBI agent ended up getting killed, and the criminal went to prison for a very long time. In fact, I think he is still in prison.
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Old December 9, 2018, 06:25 PM   #54
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Well, that would certainly qualify as a fire fight. I also see it as relevant and actually very relevant as it places you in a good position to comment based on a real life experience. Heck, you are fortunate to be among us. My only actual firefight experiences were in Vietnam which is an entirely different type of animal. What it really comes down to is you doing what makes you feel comfortable based on your own actual experience rather than basing your view on what a writer in a gun magazine suggest. Simply put I would place much more stock in what you have to say that an article I read online. It's a matter of credibility of a source and thanks much for sharing that.

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Old December 9, 2018, 08:14 PM   #55
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Yup, those unprofessionals in the United States Marshals
Chose it for a very specific and restrictive purpose....not because it was a great shotgun but because something is better than nothing. While that principle is true; it probably should not be the cornerstone of your home defense.

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One of the marshals’ requirements of the Witness Protection 870 was that it be concealable under a jacket.
It was a weapon made to used for clandestine armed escort of folks in the witness protection program. That is why only 50 were made. It was spotted a few times by the media and Hollywood thought it was cool for their movies.

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However, they will quickly learn how easy it is to miss an entire target from as close as 10 yards.
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The WP870 was designed for a specific close-protection role
https://www.tactical-life.com/firear...rotection-870/

It is kind of like selecting a derringer to hunt deer. It might work but it not designed for that role.

A good revolver or semiautomatic pistol is a good choice. I use mine for the immediate threat to get to my primary home defense weapon. Whatever you choose be familiar and train with it.
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Old December 9, 2018, 08:20 PM   #56
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Yea, long gun is clumsy in close quarters
Did a lot of CQB in the GWOT and this was never an issue. We had problems with them going after big knives attached to someone’s kit and going for our secondary side arm more so than grabbing our long arms.

Only issue with the long arm was lethality at close quarters due to the physics of a high velocity bullet out of a SBR.
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Old December 9, 2018, 09:53 PM   #57
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For home defense, the ideal piece of kit would be either a 5.56 AR-style semi-auto carbine or a FN-PS90. With frangible ammunition. Less chance of over-penetration and at close quarters, high velocity means truly explosive effects and massive energy output against the target. Meaning you drop em' quick.
Other pros: Rapid and easy target acquisition due to sights, holographic, red-dots, lasers that work with these platforms and also these weapons have multiple options for installing tac-lights. High capacity too. Me personally, I like the PS90 and that could be from watching how it is handled by the military guards on Stargate SG-1.

But since we are talking about HANDGUNS:

I voted for semi-automatics:

High magazine capacities, faster follow-up shots, far greater ease of attaching lights and lasers and semiautos can also be stored/carried in retention holsters for easy acquisition.

At the moment, I am using a large caliber hunting revolver as my main house/carry gun because I am a lot more familiar with the functioning and maintenance of wheelguns. You get slower follow-up shots and lower capacity with wheelguns but get the correct caliber weapon meant for business and you get a round that hits like a sledgehammer.
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Old December 9, 2018, 10:07 PM   #58
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Mine main wake up and grab it gun is a SIG P250 DA only. Best of both worlds.
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Old December 10, 2018, 10:29 AM   #59
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The WP870 was designed forThe WP870 was designed for a specific close-protection role
https://www.tactical-life.com/firear...rotection-870/

It is kind of like selecting a derringer to hunt deer. It might work but it not designed for that role. a specific close-protection role


It is kind of like selecting a derringer to hunt deer. It might work but it not designed for that role.
What specifically is home defense if it isn't "a specific close-protection role"?
Sounds more like hunting deer with a Winchester 94 30-30. Old school, proven, and reliable. In fact, the Shockwave was early on called the "modern" coach gun.
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Old December 10, 2018, 10:47 AM   #60
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The OP was for handguns. We have wandered into suggesting another gimmick gun that is attractive to naive shooters, despite evidence that folks would be better served with a quality handgun that they train and practice with or a quality carbine or shotgun with the same caveats.

On the Internet, we continue to get folks enamored with things like the Judge or Shockwave for newbies. That is not good advice. They are suggested as pseudo wonder weapons that substitute for ability. If you are a beginner or suggesting a gun for the 'wife', grandpa or whomever, I humbly suggest you don't take that advice and find a decent training venue for a realistic gun.

The knowledgeable folks in this discussion have made the point that a quality revolver or semi with training will do the job. The revolver suffers from lower capacity which may be an issue in a higher intensity event. That's if folks.

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