45-70 deer loads

bb gun · December 3, 2004, 06:28 PM

I am looking for at least 2 Factory loading for Whitetail hunting at ranges up to 150 yd. max.The rifle is a 1895 Marlin.I am looking for a shell that will not put a crater in the deer but will do the job with the least amount of damage. Thanks for any help.

vitesse9 · December 3, 2004, 06:43 PM

Check out corbon's homepage www.corbon.com. They have a lot of different 45-70 loads for specialized purposes. They have everything from hard cast 400 gr. "bear defense" loads to lighter, bonded-core loads. Might give you some ideas. And, of course, it's hard to find a better load than corbon.

Good Luck

mete · December 3, 2004, 07:54 PM

Any of the 300 grain loads should work fine . I am now using the Winchester Partition load since some of the 300 HPs seemed too damaging at under 50 yds . Sight in at 100 yds and the drop at 150 will be ~5". With the Marlin you should get about 1 1/2" groups at 100yds.You don't need anything more than the 300s for deer.

SmokinTom · December 3, 2004, 09:50 PM

Remington 300 gr. HP will work fine.

MeekAndMild · December 3, 2004, 10:31 PM

Ditto on the Remington.

Mannlicher · December 4, 2004, 06:46 PM

Whitetail dont need a lot of killing. Remington, Winchester, or Federal 300 grain slugs will do a fine job. I have heard good things about the Federal PowerShok 300 grain with the Sierra HP, and the Winchester SuperX 300 gr JHP. Typical shots at Whitetails are less than 100 yards.

FirstFreedom · December 6, 2004, 11:11 AM

Win SuperX 300 grainer. Remington 300 grainer. Both of these are on the shelves locally - haven't seen Federal in anything under 400 locally, IIRC. The Winchester is at Bass Pro if you have one of those locally. Any can be ordered easily off the net.

Northwest Cajun · December 6, 2004, 10:10 PM

PMC is supposed to have a good +P round out there somewhere. 350 gr bullet at 2000+ fps If not the Rem 405 factory stuff should work. Just take some time to get to know it. It going kinda slow (1200 fps) so learn it's trajectory.

I've pushed the 405's at 1700 through a 4x4 Bull elk. Found the bullet under the skin on the far side. no blood shot meat, you could eat right up to the hole

Cajun

Johnny Guest · December 13, 2004, 05:11 PM

The 300 and 350 gr factory loads probably give you a little additional range, dut to a flatter trajectory.

As a handloader, I really like the Seer 400 gr. JSP, loaded to around 1650 to 1700 in my Guide Gun. I'm also looking for a good, uniform cast lead bullet in about that weight. With iron sights, I feel limited to about 150 yards anyhow, and I want a bullet adequate for feral hogs if the opportunity arises.

Best of luck - -
Johnny

PSE · January 4, 2005, 12:12 PM

i like a hard cast lead or a jacketed like the corbon PEN load. i'd stay clear of the HP's if you want the meat or mount. a HP that starts out at .45 is gonna do some nasty damage coming out.

December 3, 2004, 06:28 PM	#1
bb gun Member Join Date: December 16, 2001 Location: Pa. Posts: 39	45-70 deer loads I am looking for at least 2 Factory loading for Whitetail hunting at ranges up to 150 yd. max.The rifle is a 1895 Marlin.I am looking for a shell that will not put a crater in the deer but will do the job with the least amount of damage. Thanks for any help.

December 3, 2004, 10:31 PM	#5
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	Ditto on the Remington. __________________ In a few years when the dust finally clears and people start counting their change there is a pretty good chance that President Obama may become known as The Great Absquatulator. You heard it first here on TFL.

December 4, 2004, 06:46 PM	#6
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida & Miami Posts: 3,209	Whitetail dont need a lot of killing. Remington, Winchester, or Federal 300 grain slugs will do a fine job. I have heard good things about the Federal PowerShok 300 grain with the Sierra HP, and the Winchester SuperX 300 gr JHP. Typical shots at Whitetails are less than 100 yards. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

December 6, 2004, 10:10 PM	#8
Northwest Cajun Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 1999 Location: Spanaway Wa. &Lafayette La,(Cajun Country) Posts: 189	PMC is supposed to have a good +P round out there somewhere. 350 gr bullet at 2000+ fps If not the Rem 405 factory stuff should work. Just take some time to get to know it. It going kinda slow (1200 fps) so learn it's trajectory. I've pushed the 405's at 1700 through a 4x4 Bull elk. Found the bullet under the skin on the far side. no blood shot meat, you could eat right up to the hole Cajun __________________ Laizzes Les Bon Temps Rouler!

December 13, 2004, 05:11 PM	#9
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	There are currently several good factory loads out there The 300 and 350 gr factory loads probably give you a little additional range, dut to a flatter trajectory. As a handloader, I really like the Seer 400 gr. JSP, loaded to around 1650 to 1700 in my Guide Gun. I'm also looking for a good, uniform cast lead bullet in about that weight. With iron sights, I feel limited to about 150 yards anyhow, and I want a bullet adequate for feral hogs if the opportunity arises. Best of luck - - Johnny

December 3, 2004, 06:43 PM	#2
vitesse9 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2004 Posts: 340	Check out corbon's homepage www.corbon.com. They have a lot of different 45-70 loads for specialized purposes. They have everything from hard cast 400 gr. "bear defense" loads to lighter, bonded-core loads. Might give you some ideas. And, of course, it's hard to find a better load than corbon. Good Luck

December 3, 2004, 07:54 PM	#3
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Any of the 300 grain loads should work fine . I am now using the Winchester Partition load since some of the 300 HPs seemed too damaging at under 50 yds . Sight in at 100 yds and the drop at 150 will be ~5". With the Marlin you should get about 1 1/2" groups at 100yds.You don't need anything more than the 300s for deer.

December 3, 2004, 09:50 PM	#4
SmokinTom Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 479	Remington 300 gr. HP will work fine.

December 6, 2004, 11:11 AM	#7
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	Win SuperX 300 grainer. Remington 300 grainer. Both of these are on the shelves locally - haven't seen Federal in anything under 400 locally, IIRC. The Winchester is at Bass Pro if you have one of those locally. Any can be ordered easily off the net.

January 4, 2005, 12:12 PM	#10
PSE Junior member Join Date: July 23, 2004 Location: stupids womb, SC Posts: 475	i like a hard cast lead or a jacketed like the corbon PEN load. i'd stay clear of the HP's if you want the meat or mount. a HP that starts out at .45 is gonna do some nasty damage coming out.