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September 27, 2009, 02:36 PM
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All-purpose Shotgun Suggestions?
Hi - new to shotguns - seeking advice on a good affordable all-purpose choice. Any suggestions?
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September 27, 2009, 02:40 PM
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I use a Mossberg 500 12ga for my all purpose shotgun. I keep the 18.5" barrel on it for HD duty but swap in the 28" for trap/hunting. It does everything I need a shotgun to do very well and reliable.
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September 27, 2009, 03:24 PM
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Depends on what you consider "all-purpose" - MY definition is geared towards targets and upland birds, therefore my definition is one thing - if yours is HD and waterfowl, or deer and turkey - that will be different yet again
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September 27, 2009, 03:32 PM
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September 27, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Hell, I could just as easily say "Perazzi"....... 
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September 27, 2009, 03:54 PM
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September 27, 2009, 04:04 PM
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HK/Benelli M1 Super 90. It looks like this one. Buy one if you can find one  .
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September 27, 2009, 04:24 PM
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Any good pump or Semi auto, that has easy barrel change and screw in chokes. This will provide a gun capable (or easy changes to suit your needs). The O/U and S/S or single barrels are OK but a pump or auto will be more versatile as a do all gun. : Bill
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September 27, 2009, 04:32 PM
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 :barf:....too many variables to just say "870"....wow....try againWhen he doesn't begin to say WHAT his uses are. then YOU are just ASSuming.....and you fit the bill well....... |
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September 27, 2009, 04:44 PM
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You may need to be more specific as "all purpose" is far too subjective. Hence, the only answer I can give at this point is to go for a solid 12ga. pump, particularly due to the fact that you are new to shotguns. I would look at Mossberg or Remington to start with given their availability, marketshare and relatively low cost. There are other quality alternatives out there to be sure (Benelli, Browning, etc.,) but I would start with the prior two and go from there. That aside, again, you may need to be more specific as to how this gun is intended to be used as "all purpose" is simply too vague when it comes to the world of weaponry, IMHO.
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September 27, 2009, 05:32 PM
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Are you sure you don't need to "try again"? Feel free to try and DICtate the terms of the discourse. Just don't expect everyone to play your childish games.
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September 27, 2009, 06:08 PM
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Yeah, everyone needs a $20k OU with adjustable comb and a gas charged recoil system for "all purpose" uses...
And that fine walnut furniture will likely hold up well when tossed in the bed of the truck to run down a marauding hog or coyote that is after crops or livestock... Yes that is one of the uses of all purpose guns... Yet another is heading off 40 MPH deer in front of the hounds for a quick shot so the gun rides barrel down on the floor board of a 4X4 cutting through the woods at 50mph or more. Then that barrel set will likely hold up real well through a few miserable seasons of waterfowl hunting...I wonder why I never thought of one of those for all purpose gun... Oh yeah... cause the sound of my mossberg cycling a shell will cause soiled drawers and possibly even make the BG pass out... Brent |
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September 27, 2009, 06:10 PM
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ok moron....let's try this again - we know NOTHING about the OP and his needs.....could be anything......personally, I can do HD and turkey, even deer and especially targets with a Perazzi.....just as easily as you might do it with a870....(except I don't need to change barrels)....so,.......what does your statement prove? Nothing until we learn more from the OP...YOUR version of affordable, and mine and his might be VERY different.....
not childish games.....just having to deal with childish folks like you that can't see past what you have in your closet |
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September 27, 2009, 06:18 PM
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I have NEVER found an all purpose shotgun that is why I have many
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September 27, 2009, 06:24 PM
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September 27, 2009, 06:25 PM
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sorry Brent -you're confusing versatile with cheap I get real sick and tired of folks who think that the only use for a shotgun starts with something plastic, costs about 100 bucks and has a pump....to each his own.....some of you will NEVER get it...OK, I can deal with that - problem is YOU folks can't deal with the other side of that equation |
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September 27, 2009, 06:27 PM
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Hey you two... Way to be inclusive and helpful for the new member...
Par4, a little more information regarding the intended purposes of this gun would go a long way in helping us identify a suitable shotgun for your purposes. However, there is a plethora of aftermarket barrels and other accessories (some more pricey than others) for the following models and they are time-tested and widely used by many people. Semi-Auto Mossberg 930 Remington 11-87 Remmington 1100 Pump-Action Mossberg 500 Mossberg 590 Remington 870 Benelli Nova/Super Nova Edit: I put my favorites in bold.
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September 27, 2009, 06:29 PM
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I doubt Par4 considers affordable to be in the $20k range... My Tahoe didn't cost me that much... Compare the cost of one Perrazi to the cost of one Mossberg. Even if my Mossberg doesn't make it to 1,000,000 rounds, I can buy 50 Mossbergs for the cost of one Perrazi. I'd rather save my money and buy a bunch of other guns as I will never in my life shoot 1,000,000 rounds of anything...
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September 27, 2009, 06:33 PM
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never said 20K, but if that works for you, it works for me....I was thinking more like 1 zero less than that
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September 27, 2009, 06:37 PM
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Negatory... I am not confusing versatile with "cheap"... I have never owned a gun that broke or wore out with the exception of a very old wore slap out Ruger .22 revolver.
My Mossberg had a plastic rear stock borrowed from juniors Mav 88 after my wreck that tore up my arm. My gun has never offered the slightest hint that it is "cheap"... Low cost? YES!!! But far from a cheap gun. It is at 10k +/- rounds and no hint it will stop any time soon. My gun is extremely versatile. I have used it on game from dove to deer and it is my HD weapon, kept loaded every minute it is in the home. Never a repair. If I did own a "fine gentleman's gun", I sure wouldn't subject it to the treatment and abuses this mossberg has endured... Crossing on a log over a creek when me and the gun go in the drink... shook out the water and continued on... I reckon I oughta tear it down in the next few months to clean it... Brent |
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September 27, 2009, 06:41 PM
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Another vote for the 870. If the OP provides more details I might revise my answer but it is hard to go wrong with the 870 no matter how much, or little money you have.
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I hate gun snobs BTW... I've got no problem with people who like expensive guns, I like them myself, but don't try to tell me that a Mossberg won't kill a dove/duck/pheasant/quail/rabbit/squirrel/etc just as dead as a Perrazi that cost 50 times as much... Just because something costs more doesn't mean it gets the job done any better... Quote:
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Now let's return to the original purpose of the thread shall we? The part before we started talking about multi-thousand dollar guns for a guy who's looking for one, do-it-all, affordable (for the masses) shotgun...
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September 27, 2009, 06:42 PM
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September 27, 2009, 06:45 PM
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Yep 500 or 870, I just prefer the 500.....next question?
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September 27, 2009, 06:47 PM
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And Brent - I have a Savage/Fox BSE in 20 - been through the mud and muck hunting ducks back when lead was still legal....earned its scrapes hunting chukar in NV (something you flatlanders have NO idea about), would have done the same with a good Spanish SxS had I had one at the time...too many folks here focus on walmart's 199 specials...OK....but you folks need to stop bashing those of us who can actually appreciate something more than a plastic wally world special....and i will forever fight the BS prejudice spouted by folks who have nothing but wealth-envy on their mind
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