Smith and wesson 642 UC

89074R · September 5, 2024, 05:25 PM

There were 4 revolvers manufactured by S&W for exclusive distribution by Lipseys.
The guns were 642UC 38 special in stainless,442UC 38 special blued, 432UC 32 H&R magnum blued and 632UC 32H&R magnum in stainless.
Each gun has XS big dot front sight, VS grips, better trigger and some other enhancements
I purchased a 642UC, trigger is smooth but a bit heavy and I like the big dot front sight.
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Cyanide971 · September 5, 2024, 05:36 PM

Nice acquisition! I’ll be adding one of the .32 Mag variants to the collection soon myself.

orionengnr · September 6, 2024, 06:03 PM

I bought a 432UC, haven't fired it yet.
Waiting on Starline brass to appear--have the rest of the required components standing by.

Jack19 · September 13, 2024, 06:12 PM

Real sights are a huge improvement. Good buy OP.

9ballbilly · September 30, 2024, 02:55 PM

Just ordered a 632 UC today. Should have it by the end of the week!

JustJake · September 30, 2024, 06:25 PM

The sight of the dreaded Hillary Hole kills the desire to own a S&W revolver.

Very sad.

L-2 · September 30, 2024, 11:26 PM

Post 6,
The UC series (632UC, 432UC, 642UC, and 442UC) don't have the internal lock system (ILS) parts. There are other various S&W "Centennial" models which do not have the ILS, too, if that's all which is holding a person back from buying any S&W revolver.

Just an fyi.

orionengnr · November 10, 2024, 10:09 PM

"The sight of the dreaded Hillary Hole kills the desire to own a S&W revolver."

There is no Hillary Hole in these revolvers.
I have a 432UC and it's a very nice revolver.
Wouldn't mind adding a 442UC, but we'll see how it goes.

FITASC · November 11, 2024, 01:52 PM

I bought a regular 642 some years back and had the choice of the lock or not; I chose not..........

smee78 · November 11, 2024, 03:54 PM

I want a 632UC or 432UC 32H&R magnum to add to the collection. I have had an eye out for one but no dice yet.

TruthTellers · November 16, 2024, 11:49 PM

I've been on the .32 revolver bandwagon for years, originally that was for .327, but recently I've been evolving my thoughts given more information I read and experience. I think I would prefer to use .32 H&R in a snub over .327 because I think it will do the job and do it with less blast and recoil, kind of like how .38 +P is with .357 Mag. The problem is I find .327 does not play well with shorter cartridges like .32 HR Mag, .32 S&W Lg, or .32 S&W as velocity loss is greater using those in a .327 than in a .32 H&R, so if I'm going to use .32 H&R or .32 S&W Long it makes all the sense in the world to get a .32 H&R Mag chambered revolver.

The 442UC/642UC is being considered, but I will give Ruger and Taurus time to figure out that there's still a place for an ultralight revolver in .32 H&R Mag in a world where .327 also exists. I'd rather get an LCR in .32 Mag over the S&W, but for those with less patience than I, you can't go wrong with the S&W.

smee78 · November 17, 2024, 08:06 AM

But how much velocity loss are we talking about TruthTellers and will it make any real-world difference at self-defense distances with sub 2" barrels?

TruthTellers · November 17, 2024, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smee78

But how much velocity loss are we talking about TruthTellers and will it make any real-world difference at self-defense distances with sub 2" barrels?

With .32 Long, they're not going fast enough to expand anything, so there's no loss there. The loss would be in penetration, you could get more due to the higher velocity of a non .327.

.32 H&R, if the loss is equal (I have to test this) it can be the difference of an expanded hollow point or not.

We put a lot of focus on what's the best and giving up power is seldom a better solution.

Outpost75 · November 17, 2024, 07:51 PM

I would be more concerned with large barrel-cylinder gap because S&W ships them up to 0.010" now.
You lose about 50 fps compared to what was considered Mean Assembly Tolerance prior to 1984.

TruthTellers · November 17, 2024, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outpost75

I would be more concerned with large barrel-cylinder gap because S&W ships them up to 0.010" now.
You lose about 50 fps compared to what was considered Mean Assembly Tolerance prior to 1984.

I didn't measure the gaps when I was testing .32 S&W, it was just a raw what's the velocity in different revolvers. The .32 short top break got the highest velocity, H&R Mag wasn't far behind, .32 S&W Long top break was third, and the .327's were dead last and within 10 fps of each other even with a 2 and 4 inch barrel.

The gap on the .32 Long top break was definitely larger than either .327's were, yet got a better velocity.

September 5, 2024, 05:25 PM	#1
89074R Junior Member Join Date: March 9, 2023 Posts: 6	Smith and wesson 642 UC There were 4 revolvers manufactured by S&W for exclusive distribution by Lipseys. The guns were 642UC 38 special in stainless,442UC 38 special blued, 432UC 32 H&R magnum blued and 632UC 32H&R magnum in stainless. Each gun has XS big dot front sight, VS grips, better trigger and some other enhancements I purchased a 642UC, trigger is smooth but a bit heavy and I like the big dot front sight. . Last edited by 89074R; September 5, 2024 at 05:32 PM.

September 13, 2024, 06:12 PM	#4
Jack19 Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2001 Location: Somewhere in the Ford Galaxy Posts: 736	Real sights are a huge improvement. Good buy OP. __________________ Once people stop believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing; rather, the problem is that they will believe anything. - C. S. Lewis

September 30, 2024, 02:55 PM	#5
9ballbilly Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2008 Location: northeast Florida Posts: 620	Just ordered a 632 UC today. Should have it by the end of the week! __________________ may God eternally bless the American Rifleman--- as long as one stands, resolute, liberty shall not perish.

September 30, 2024, 06:25 PM	#6
JustJake Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2020 Posts: 523	The sight of the dreaded Hillary Hole kills the desire to own a S&W revolver. Very sad. __________________ I use the Jake Brake every chance I get. Don't care if it annoys you. Hear me now?!

September 30, 2024, 11:26 PM	#7
L-2 Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2004 Location: Nevada Posts: 536	Post 6, The UC series (632UC, 432UC, 642UC, and 442UC) don't have the internal lock system (ILS) parts. There are other various S&W "Centennial" models which do not have the ILS, too, if that's all which is holding a person back from buying any S&W revolver. Just an fyi. __________________ (former) Glock Armorer 1911 Armorer LEO (retired)

September 5, 2024, 05:36 PM	#2
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 727	Nice acquisition! I’ll be adding one of the .32 Mag variants to the collection soon myself.

September 6, 2024, 06:03 PM	#3
orionengnr Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Posts: 5,194	I bought a 432UC, haven't fired it yet. Waiting on Starline brass to appear--have the rest of the required components standing by.

November 10, 2024, 10:09 PM	#8
orionengnr Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2004 Posts: 5,194	"The sight of the dreaded Hillary Hole kills the desire to own a S&W revolver." There is no Hillary Hole in these revolvers. I have a 432UC and it's a very nice revolver. Wouldn't mind adding a 442UC, but we'll see how it goes.

November 11, 2024, 01:52 PM	#9
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,596	I bought a regular 642 some years back and had the choice of the lock or not; I chose not.......... __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

November 11, 2024, 03:54 PM	#10
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,942	I want a 632UC or 432UC 32H&R magnum to add to the collection. I have had an eye out for one but no dice yet. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

November 16, 2024, 11:49 PM	#11
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,931	I've been on the .32 revolver bandwagon for years, originally that was for .327, but recently I've been evolving my thoughts given more information I read and experience. I think I would prefer to use .32 H&R in a snub over .327 because I think it will do the job and do it with less blast and recoil, kind of like how .38 +P is with .357 Mag. The problem is I find .327 does not play well with shorter cartridges like .32 HR Mag, .32 S&W Lg, or .32 S&W as velocity loss is greater using those in a .327 than in a .32 H&R, so if I'm going to use .32 H&R or .32 S&W Long it makes all the sense in the world to get a .32 H&R Mag chambered revolver. The 442UC/642UC is being considered, but I will give Ruger and Taurus time to figure out that there's still a place for an ultralight revolver in .32 H&R Mag in a world where .327 also exists. I'd rather get an LCR in .32 Mag over the S&W, but for those with less patience than I, you can't go wrong with the S&W. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

November 17, 2024, 08:06 AM	#12
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,942	But how much velocity loss are we talking about TruthTellers and will it make any real-world difference at self-defense distances with sub 2" barrels? __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

November 17, 2024, 07:51 PM	#14
Outpost75 Member Join Date: October 4, 2024 Location: Potomac Highlands WV Posts: 51	I would be more concerned with large barrel-cylinder gap because S&W ships them up to 0.010" now. You lose about 50 fps compared to what was considered Mean Assembly Tolerance prior to 1984.

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