Night Sights - Page 2

nanney1 · December 2, 2017, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MandolinMan

If the difference is only $65 bucks, I would definitely buy locally and get the version with night sights and the extra magazine. You may try to convince the sales person to throw in some ammo or something.

At some point, after several more guns, I'll look back and laugh at how I tried to save every penny on my first purhcase. But the reason is that I'm adding up everything on this first purchase....

Trip to indoor range to shoot and try different models, $75
Concealed Carry Class - $75
Concealed Carry application to Sheriff's office - $90

All before I purchased a gun or ammo, or anything else.

And the "local" shop is actually a huge retailer that has a big storefront and online sales.

So, I decided to save the $65 difference and I went ahead and purchased online yesterday. Then I went to Wal-Mart and bought 200 rounds of range ammo. And this morning, I went to the local shop and spent $71 for a Maglula, soft armor holster, Hoppes cleaning kit, and a bore brush.

stephen426 · December 3, 2017, 03:39 AM

I have a green front sight and yellow rear sights on my Glock 26. In low light, night sights can make a difference. I know you should always be sure of what your target is an what lies beyond, but night sights make it easier to line up. No one said they had to be pitch black to use them.

Excoastie · December 5, 2017, 07:33 AM

I would say go with the local gun that has the night sights.

I've had my Shield 9mm for almost a year, and I've got over 2000 rounds through it. The standard sights are not the best, but they are adequate. I'm looking into replacing the sights on mine, and when I do I will go with some sort of night sight.

good luck

Exco

jr24 · December 5, 2017, 04:05 PM

There are a few cases where night sights are great, but I prefer to make sure I have a flashlight.

I do not like that night sights are often lower contrast in daytime and harder for me to see over standard white dot or fiberoptic.

TunnelRat · December 5, 2017, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jr24

I do not like that night sights are often lower contrast in daytime and harder for me to see over standard white dot or fiberoptic.

A number of manufacturers are working to change that these days, typically with a surrounding circle of color on the front sight. It’s not as good as a fiber optic but it is better than it used to be.

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Bill DeShivs · December 5, 2017, 04:22 PM

If you know where your gun shoots, you don't need ANY sights, much less expensive glow in the dark ones.
Just spend that money on ammunition, and learn to shoot the gun.

TunnelRat · December 5, 2017, 04:42 PM

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If you know where your gun shoots, you don't need ANY sights, much less expensive glow in the dark ones.
Just spend that money on ammunition, and learn to shoot the gun.

I've literally spent two straight days on reflexive shooting, with the original manual from Bob Taubert, where they removed the sights from my pistol. I was amazed at what we could accomplish by the end. That said, at 7 yds or more to the target I'm using the sights and that is based off of testing we did by ourselves and observations the class made as a whole. Sights still have a role.

jr24 · December 5, 2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TunnelRat

A number of manufacturers are working to change that these days, typically with a surrounding circle of color on the front sight. It’s not as good as a fiber optic but it is better than it used to be.

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I have tried a few of the recent offerings and still don't love them.

The best I've found is the Ameriglo CAP sights, with the green or yellow square. The square seems to pop to mu colorblind eyes best.

Then again, the tritium on those isn't great so luminescent paint on a blacked out front sight would be just as good for me, going to try just that on my Kimber Ultra Carry

rodfac · December 5, 2017, 06:19 PM

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If you know where your gun shoots, you don't need ANY sights, much less expensive glow in the dark ones. Just spend that money on ammunition, and learn to shoot the gun.

...At 7 yds or more to the target I'm using the sights and that is based off of testing we did by ourselves and observations the class made as a whole. Sights still have a role.

Yep, that's been my experience as well...and night sights help me engage when I still have a chance to stop the attack. Rod

MrBot · August 16, 2019, 04:54 AM

..gave up on the handheld flashlight a long time ago. Why tie up a perfectly innocent hand? ..just wondering how many have actually field tested (answer: none) the feasibility of actually blinding or even slowing down an aggressive, meth-fueled assailant with a tiny little ol' light shooter? It won't work. ..much better option is a cap light as it frees both hands. Most folks who carry no doubt do so IWB, which for me requires I lift my shirt with the weak hand so as to be able to grip the hg with my dominant hand. So in that scenario where does the flashlight end up? If I want/need to see sights at night I gotta have night sights. It's a tool. ..may never need 'em but I'd rather have 'em & not need 'em than need 'em & not have 'em. Use 'em once & no matter what you paid for the set they're a bargain.

jackstrawIII · August 16, 2019, 05:44 PM

They're not a "definite need", but they certainly help. My personal preference is a red/orange tritium front sight with a solid black (no dots) rear sight. Super fast target acquisition in low light and plenty accurate for daytime shooting.

DnPRK · August 17, 2019, 12:49 AM

It's daylight 50% of the time and night 50% of the time. Do you think self defense activities which might require a firearm only occur during daylight hours?

You need a good weapon mounted light too.

TruthTellers · August 17, 2019, 01:42 AM

If you are going to carry the gun, night sights are very useful. If you are going to use it for home defense, you don't need night sights as a weapon mounted light is more useful.

Why do I say this? Generally, a home defense gun is not carried, so a bulky weapon light is not an issue like it is a CCW gun where holsters are difficult to find that accommodate a weapon light.

I have a lot of pistols, one of them (G27) has tritium night sights on them, the other is an LCP Custom with glow in the dark front sight. The rest have no night sights or weapon lights, several of them are stashed/hidden throughout the house, loaded. My figuring is if I'm not in the bedroom, sleeping, then the Sun is out or there are lights on in the house and I don't need night sights or weapon lights.

Conceal carrying is a totally different story and the reaction times, distances, etc. are so critical that, as others have said, you don't have the time to align sights, but being able to see where your front sight is in relation to your rear sights gives you a decent idea of where the bullet is going to go vs not and that can be the difference of shooting the attacker in an effective spot to stop him and grazing his shoulder, if not missing completely.

So, is the salesman wrong? No, but plenty of people have carried without night sights and been just fine. It depends on the situations you find yourself in.

That said, if someone had a few CCW pistols for various outfits or seasonal clothing, I wouldn't criticize anyone who paid to have night sights on them simply because the cost of the sights vs their potential use over their 10 year lifespan is worth paying for.

MrBot · August 17, 2019, 03:35 AM

I'm in the same boat with the Shield. ..would love to remove the original sights & install new ones as a DIY project. ..hearing that installing new sights can be somewhat of a challenge do to really tight dovetails--maybe a diamond hone would do the job in honing new sights to slide in more easily. But 1st I think I'll try painting the existing 3-dot white sights with either glow-in-the-dark sight paint with maybe a slightly contrasting paint around that (yellow/green combo maybe) or simply use some glow-in-the-dark nail polish from Wallymart.

smee78 · August 17, 2019, 07:04 PM

For $60 why not, I also enjoy seeing them on my bed side table gun, gives me a reassuring feeling. I think they help me and if I ever need to use my gun I will take any help I can get.

Kreyzhorse · August 17, 2019, 07:30 PM

Night sights are cool,but they aren't a must have, or even a nice to have.

I have a Couple of guns with them, but they would be something I'd go out of my way to buy.

cw308 · August 18, 2019, 07:36 PM

My carry is a Colt New Agent in 45ACP , it doesn't have the conventional front and rear sights , they have a trench cutout front to back down the top of the slide . The pistol came with CT Laser grips , it's a true carry piece just point and shoot . For a 3" 1911 it is as accurate as my 5" at 10+ yards . As long as you train with night sights , reg sights , CT or flashlights , you have to be comfortable with whatever you pick . It's the person looking back at you that will make the difference . Know how to use your carry if not leave it home . Practice .

December 3, 2017, 03:39 AM	#27
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	I have a green front sight and yellow rear sights on my Glock 26. In low light, night sights can make a difference. I know you should always be sure of what your target is an what lies beyond, but night sights make it easier to line up. No one said they had to be pitch black to use them. __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

December 5, 2017, 07:33 AM	#28
Excoastie Member Join Date: September 18, 2016 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 89	I would say go with the local gun that has the night sights. I've had my Shield 9mm for almost a year, and I've got over 2000 rounds through it. The standard sights are not the best, but they are adequate. I'm looking into replacing the sights on mine, and when I do I will go with some sort of night sight. good luck Exco __________________ I'm going outside to stand, if anyone asks; tell them I'm OUTSTANDING

December 5, 2017, 04:22 PM	#31
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,980	If you know where your gun shoots, you don't need ANY sights, much less expensive glow in the dark ones. Just spend that money on ammunition, and learn to shoot the gun. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

August 16, 2019, 05:44 PM	#36
jackstrawIII Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2016 Location: Upstate NY. Posts: 901	They're not a "definite need", but they certainly help. My personal preference is a red/orange tritium front sight with a solid black (no dots) rear sight. Super fast target acquisition in low light and plenty accurate for daytime shooting. __________________ In God we trust.

August 17, 2019, 01:42 AM	#38
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,883	If you are going to carry the gun, night sights are very useful. If you are going to use it for home defense, you don't need night sights as a weapon mounted light is more useful. Why do I say this? Generally, a home defense gun is not carried, so a bulky weapon light is not an issue like it is a CCW gun where holsters are difficult to find that accommodate a weapon light. I have a lot of pistols, one of them (G27) has tritium night sights on them, the other is an LCP Custom with glow in the dark front sight. The rest have no night sights or weapon lights, several of them are stashed/hidden throughout the house, loaded. My figuring is if I'm not in the bedroom, sleeping, then the Sun is out or there are lights on in the house and I don't need night sights or weapon lights. Conceal carrying is a totally different story and the reaction times, distances, etc. are so critical that, as others have said, you don't have the time to align sights, but being able to see where your front sight is in relation to your rear sights gives you a decent idea of where the bullet is going to go vs not and that can be the difference of shooting the attacker in an effective spot to stop him and grazing his shoulder, if not missing completely. So, is the salesman wrong? No, but plenty of people have carried without night sights and been just fine. It depends on the situations you find yourself in. That said, if someone had a few CCW pistols for various outfits or seasonal clothing, I wouldn't criticize anyone who paid to have night sights on them simply because the cost of the sights vs their potential use over their 10 year lifespan is worth paying for. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out." Last edited by TruthTellers; August 17, 2019 at 01:49 AM.

December 5, 2017, 04:05 PM	#29
jr24 Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2011 Posts: 870	There are a few cases where night sights are great, but I prefer to make sure I have a flashlight. I do not like that night sights are often lower contrast in daytime and harder for me to see over standard white dot or fiberoptic.

August 16, 2019, 04:54 AM	#35
MrBot Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2013 Posts: 113	..gave up on the handheld flashlight a long time ago. Why tie up a perfectly innocent hand? ..just wondering how many have actually field tested (answer: none) the feasibility of actually blinding or even slowing down an aggressive, meth-fueled assailant with a tiny little ol' light shooter? It won't work. ..much better option is a cap light as it frees both hands. Most folks who carry no doubt do so IWB, which for me requires I lift my shirt with the weak hand so as to be able to grip the hg with my dominant hand. So in that scenario where does the flashlight end up? If I want/need to see sights at night I gotta have night sights. It's a tool. ..may never need 'em but I'd rather have 'em & not need 'em than need 'em & not have 'em. Use 'em once & no matter what you paid for the set they're a bargain.

August 17, 2019, 12:49 AM	#37
DnPRK Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2001 Location: LC, Ca Posts: 1,917	It's daylight 50% of the time and night 50% of the time. Do you think self defense activities which might require a firearm only occur during daylight hours? You need a good weapon mounted light too.

August 17, 2019, 03:35 AM	#39
MrBot Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2013 Posts: 113	I'm in the same boat with the Shield. ..would love to remove the original sights & install new ones as a DIY project. ..hearing that installing new sights can be somewhat of a challenge do to really tight dovetails--maybe a diamond hone would do the job in honing new sights to slide in more easily. But 1st I think I'll try painting the existing 3-dot white sights with either glow-in-the-dark sight paint with maybe a slightly contrasting paint around that (yellow/green combo maybe) or simply use some glow-in-the-dark nail polish from Wallymart.

August 17, 2019, 07:04 PM	#40
smee78 Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,918	For $60 why not, I also enjoy seeing them on my bed side table gun, gives me a reassuring feeling. I think they help me and if I ever need to use my gun I will take any help I can get. __________________ We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located, among the millions and millions of cows in America, but we haven't got a clue where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are

August 17, 2019, 07:30 PM	#41
Kreyzhorse Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2006 Location: NKY Posts: 12,463	Night sights are cool,but they aren't a must have, or even a nice to have. I have a Couple of guns with them, but they would be something I'd go out of my way to buy. __________________ "He who laughs last, laughs dead." Homer Simpson

August 18, 2019, 07:36 PM	#42
cw308 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2010 Location: Plainview , Long Island NY Posts: 3,863	My carry is a Colt New Agent in 45ACP , it doesn't have the conventional front and rear sights , they have a trench cutout front to back down the top of the slide . The pistol came with CT Laser grips , it's a true carry piece just point and shoot . For a 3" 1911 it is as accurate as my 5" at 10+ yards . As long as you train with night sights , reg sights , CT or flashlights , you have to be comfortable with whatever you pick . It's the person looking back at you that will make the difference . Know how to use your carry if not leave it home . Practice .

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