I need info on Confederate 1851 Colt Navy - Page 2

Joe from N.Y. · May 17, 2011, 03:17 PM

more photos, better lighting:

Joe from N.Y. · April 3, 2017, 05:29 PM

Bump - has anyone ever seen that "R. Jackson" stamped on a Navy like this? There was an old firearms dealer in London in the mid 1800's called "R. Jackson". I see it in some auction listings for some pieces, but they never show the actual stamping.

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21658/lot/55/

**4V50 Gary** · April 3, 2017, 07:27 PM

Somewhere I have a book on London Colts. Let me see if I can dig it out.

Seeing how pristine it is, I am skeptical.

**4V50 Gary** · April 3, 2017, 08:19 PM

Can't find the book on London Armory. I'll look again when the light is better.

I checked Hill & Anthony's Confederate Longarms and Pistols, Albaugh, Benet and Simmons' Confederate Handguns and Gary's Confederate Revolvers and didn't see squat.

**4V50 Gary** · April 3, 2017, 08:28 PM

My book, Colt Single Action Army Revolvers and the London Agency by C. Kenneth Moore only has a few pages on the cap 'n ball Colt revolver. No mention of Jackson in the index.

I'm going to say fake.

Hawg · April 4, 2017, 05:44 PM

I'm going to say it's a fake too. From what I can see of the knurling on the hammer spur it's wrong for a Colt.

Buzzcook · April 4, 2017, 09:43 PM

A modern reproduction that someone messed with imho. They didn't even go to the effort to "antique/distress" it.

BTW the grip wear on the first gun looks genuine. So either old grips or a very good counterfeiter.

Joe from N.Y. · April 6, 2017, 01:43 PM

So whats with that "R.[ Jackson" stamped under the barrel? would a counterfeiter put something extra on a gun that would never be there on a real one?

**James K** · April 6, 2017, 08:26 PM

Maybe he traded the gun for a pair of shoes. Or was that Joe Jackson?

Jim

Hawg · April 9, 2017, 11:48 AM

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So whats with that "R.[ Jackson" stamped under the barrel? would a counterfeiter put something extra on a gun that would never be there on a real one?

They sure will. Anything that will give a gun a personal touch.

April 3, 2017, 07:27 PM	#28
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 19,732	Somewhere I have a book on London Colts. Let me see if I can dig it out. Seeing how pristine it is, I am skeptical. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 3, 2017, 08:19 PM	#29
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 19,732	Can't find the book on London Armory. I'll look again when the light is better. I checked Hill & Anthony's Confederate Longarms and Pistols, Albaugh, Benet and Simmons' Confederate Handguns and Gary's Confederate Revolvers and didn't see squat. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 3, 2017, 08:28 PM	#30
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 19,732	found it My book, Colt Single Action Army Revolvers and the London Agency by C. Kenneth Moore only has a few pages on the cap 'n ball Colt revolver. No mention of Jackson in the index. I'm going to say fake. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

April 6, 2017, 08:26 PM	#34
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,384	Maybe he traded the gun for a pair of shoes. Or was that Joe Jackson? Jim __________________ Jim K

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May 17, 2011, 03:17 PM	#26
Joe from N.Y. Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Posts: 16	more photos, better lighting:

April 3, 2017, 05:29 PM	#27
Joe from N.Y. Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Posts: 16	Bump - has anyone ever seen that "R. Jackson" stamped on a Navy like this? There was an old firearms dealer in London in the mid 1800's called "R. Jackson". I see it in some auction listings for some pieces, but they never show the actual stamping. https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21658/lot/55/

April 4, 2017, 05:44 PM	#31
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 14,670	I'm going to say it's a fake too. From what I can see of the knurling on the hammer spur it's wrong for a Colt.

April 4, 2017, 09:43 PM	#32
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,048	A modern reproduction that someone messed with imho. They didn't even go to the effort to "antique/distress" it. BTW the grip wear on the first gun looks genuine. So either old grips or a very good counterfeiter.

April 6, 2017, 01:43 PM	#33
Joe from N.Y. Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Posts: 16	So whats with that "R.[ Jackson" stamped under the barrel? would a counterfeiter put something extra on a gun that would never be there on a real one?