We need to push for MORE Firearm Rights

k_dawg · December 27, 2012, 04:36 PM

We need the equivelent of incorporating the Second Amendment Rights to the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act.

We need to be pushing for REMOVAL of restrictions that impair our ability to defend one's family, one's self and one's society and nation. Far too long have we allowed certain members to attack and deny our rights. It is no different than how the Democrats fought tooth and nail to prevent full rights to Blacks. No different than how Democrats fought tooth and nail to prevent Voting Rights.

We should be demanding the legislative teeth to back up Heller and other rulings.

1) Incorporate the express desire to excercise one's Second Amendment Right as a Federal 'protective class' with strict strutiny applied to any and all related laws.

2) Mandate that anyone, anywhere who can lawfully meet the requirements as on the current 4473 must be allowed to purchase any lawful (non-NFA) firearm. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities.

3) Mandate that any 'ID', "card" "permit" etc be 'shall issue' to all citizens who meet the test of 4473. Any fee, tax or associated cost to obtain said ID must be treated as a "Poll Tax" and criminalized as a violation of Civic Rights. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities.

4) Mandate as a Maximum requirement of a "Shall Issue" open and concealed carry permit. No requirement to exceed the requirements of 4473 can be required; except for an NRA or other designated pro-Second Amendment Group's safety training, not to exceed 8 hours, which must be offered enough that any citizen can reasonably attend within 2 weeks, and 25 miles. The state "Shall Issue" said ID, Card, Permit within 2 weeks after completing said class. Any and All costs shall be born by the State. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities.

5) Mandate that the full protections of the "Full Faith and Credit Act" apply to all issued ID, Card, Permit etc. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities.

6) Mandate that any and all "Free Kill Zones" be absolished, except for designated Secure Government Facilities, which will require continuous 24/7 Armed Police Officer or Other Government Security [Not Private]. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities.

7) Mandate that simply posessing or carrying a firearm of any type is NOT resonable or probable cause of a crime being commited.

8) Mandate that any lawful citizen who meets the requirement of 4473 will have inherent Standing, to sue any level of government, official or agency for any violation of these Civil Rights.

Unfortunately, you and I know when the politician says "Everything on the Table", they are speaking out of their sphincter.

Nickel Plated · December 27, 2012, 09:51 PM

A bit late on the call to action I think. We've been working on this for quite some time, and making good progress. You're not going to get all of that right away. We didn't loose our rights over night. We aren't going to get them back over night.

**Tom Servo** · December 27, 2012, 10:39 PM

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We should be demanding the legislative teeth to back up Heller and other rulings.

That's exactly what's happening, but politics is a slow process.

December 27, 2012, 04:36 PM	#1
k_dawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2004 Posts: 563	We need to push for MORE Firearm Rights We need the equivelent of incorporating the Second Amendment Rights to the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act. We need to be pushing for REMOVAL of restrictions that impair our ability to defend one's family, one's self and one's society and nation. Far too long have we allowed certain members to attack and deny our rights. It is no different than how the Democrats fought tooth and nail to prevent full rights to Blacks. No different than how Democrats fought tooth and nail to prevent Voting Rights. We should be demanding the legislative teeth to back up Heller and other rulings. 1) Incorporate the express desire to excercise one's Second Amendment Right as a Federal 'protective class' with strict strutiny applied to any and all related laws. 2) Mandate that anyone, anywhere who can lawfully meet the requirements as on the current 4473 must be allowed to purchase any lawful (non-NFA) firearm. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities. 3) Mandate that any 'ID', "card" "permit" etc be 'shall issue' to all citizens who meet the test of 4473. Any fee, tax or associated cost to obtain said ID must be treated as a "Poll Tax" and criminalized as a violation of Civic Rights. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities. 4) Mandate as a Maximum requirement of a "Shall Issue" open and concealed carry permit. No requirement to exceed the requirements of 4473 can be required; except for an NRA or other designated pro-Second Amendment Group's safety training, not to exceed 8 hours, which must be offered enough that any citizen can reasonably attend within 2 weeks, and 25 miles. The state "Shall Issue" said ID, Card, Permit within 2 weeks after completing said class. Any and All costs shall be born by the State. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities. 5) Mandate that the full protections of the "Full Faith and Credit Act" apply to all issued ID, Card, Permit etc. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities. 6) Mandate that any and all "Free Kill Zones" be absolished, except for designated Secure Government Facilities, which will require continuous 24/7 Armed Police Officer or Other Government Security [Not Private]. Any additional restriction must be viewed as a violation of Civil Rights with several legal and civil penalities. 7) Mandate that simply posessing or carrying a firearm of any type is NOT resonable or probable cause of a crime being commited. 8) Mandate that any lawful citizen who meets the requirement of 4473 will have inherent Standing, to sue any level of government, official or agency for any violation of these Civil Rights. Unfortunately, you and I know when the politician says "Everything on the Table", they are speaking out of their sphincter. __________________ "How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of." Texas State Rep. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp

December 27, 2012, 09:51 PM	#2
Nickel Plated Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 610	A bit late on the call to action I think. We've been working on this for quite some time, and making good progress. You're not going to get all of that right away. We didn't loose our rights over night. We aren't going to get them back over night.