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Always cocked and locked ... if for some reason you don't feel comfortable with the gun in that condition, there are tons of other choices (at the moment, anyhow) that will offer you options, like a revolver or a semi like a Springfield or Glock ... well, maybe not a Glock ...
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I prefer condition 2 but i wouldn't feel any different carrying it in condition1. I believe you should carry however you feel comfortable....the most important safety is the one between your ears. To me drawing and cocking the hammer is as easy as any single action revolver. I also have an aversion to grip safeties.
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If you carry with the hammer on half cock or hammer down on a chambered round and drop the gun and it lands on the hammer will it fire ?
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C1: cocked and locked
Edit: no if working properly the 1911 platform will not discharge at half cock if dropped, also will not should not discharge at full cock with thumb safety off.... |
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Condition 1 for me, since 1984 same gun. the only time it's not in condition one is for cleaning, then it's reloaded, back into the holster cond,1. Never had a problem with it. |
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John Browning designed the 1911 to work the way the Ordnance Department wanted it to work. The original prototype didn't have a thumb safety -- that was added per Ordnance Department request. What we're really asking isn't how John Moses Browning intended the pistol to be carried, but how the Ordnance Department intended it to be carried.
If you scare up a copy of the original field manual for the M1911, it says to keep it with the chamber unloaded and the hammer down when in "safe" areas, and to load the chamber and apply the thumb safety when action is "imminent." In the context of WW1, it would seem that "imminent" would be when the enemy was making a mass attack, or you were making a mass attack. For us, today, we carry a 1911 for self-defense. Muggers and assailants don't make appointments, so IMHO any time I'm out on the street (or in my house, for that matter) the need for my sidearm may be "imminent" at any time. So -- I carry in Condition 1 because IF I need it, I'm going to need it quickly. Last edited by Aguila Blanca; February 9, 2013 at 10:42 PM. Reason: typo |
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Aguila Blanca, just explained and said it perfectly.
Different time now. Different needs. Civilians and LE carry them now. I haven't seen such a good explanation yet. Good call! Sent from my phone...expect typos. |
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I carry "condition 2" most all of the time. I personally haven't had a need for "condition 1" unless I was hog hunting or responding to a bump in the night to appease the wife or a neighbor. As I'm sure many of you do- I seem to be able to cock it from "condition 2" pretty fast as I reach down to unholster the firearm- just cocking it with my thumb as I roll/pull it out of the holster.
I don't carry a 1911 too much for SD. I don't really like SA for CC. Plus I have both experienced and heard at the range "Oops my 1911 doesn't like this ammo". For SD carry I like to use handguns that love ANY ammo! Like a fat kid loves cake! Not bashing the 1911's I love them. |
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Cocked & Locked. Usually IWB with thumb break under the hammer. OWB without thumb break. (typically my usual CC is something smaller)
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What condition is carrying empty chamber but with hammer back to make racking the slide quicker & easier?
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