Dealing with the active shooter - Page 3

Glenn E. Meyer · January 10, 2011, 06:29 PM

The video folks make what sells to places that ban guns. If they are anti - I don't know. As far as the laptop charge. We tried it. You can't through them very far and a good shooter can get off about 3 to 8 shots off in the time it takes for you to close it and throw.

This doesn't include the first wave of close folks shot down. So Laptop Larry the Commando is even farther away.

I don't disrespect the idea of doing what you can but I'm not down with the folks who propose the use of improvised weapons as a reason for not allowing carry. Subtle point.

steve54 · January 10, 2011, 07:04 PM

I'd be trying my best to make myself invisible while looking/moving for cover and drawing my weapon

R1145 · January 11, 2011, 04:28 PM

YMMV, but, generally:

1. Draw weapon;

2. Maneuver to cover/concealment/position of advantage, setting up a clear background for the shot;

3. Issue verbal commands for suspect to drop the weapon, if subject has not yet begun to shoot;

4. Engage as necessary to protect self and others.

Double Naught Spy · January 11, 2011, 07:09 PM

You know, if the guy is shooting other people, I won't be issuing any verbal commands to the shooter. He knows what he is doing wrong. He knows he will be engaged. I just don't see any reason to warn him.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 11, 2011, 09:33 PM

Tacoma Mall - that's says it for me with an active shooter shooting away.

Also, in training - you can get the drop on someone and he or she can shoot you while you are flapping your gums.

oldkim · January 11, 2011, 10:35 PM

I was about 12 miles from Tacoma Mall when this happened in 2005. If I hadn't been shopping for a car in Federal Way we were headed for the mall. I don't know if we would of been in the exact location the shooting happened but I always play the "what If" game...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Mall_shooting

Verbally warning was a bad idea but re-holstering the firearm was worse. Too bad he's now paralyzed and we the people have to still pay to keep this nut behind bars.

View Poll Results: How would you deal with the active shooter?
Make a run for it as soon as you see the weapon	12	9.30%
Stay in place, freeze and be silent	4	3.10%
Hit the ground	4	3.10%
Try reasoning with the active shooter	1	0.78%
Go for cover	53	41.09%
Whip out your concealed carry 1911 and open fire	55	42.64%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

January 10, 2011, 06:29 PM	#51
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	The video folks make what sells to places that ban guns. If they are anti - I don't know. As far as the laptop charge. We tried it. You can't through them very far and a good shooter can get off about 3 to 8 shots off in the time it takes for you to close it and throw. This doesn't include the first wave of close folks shot down. So Laptop Larry the Commando is even farther away. I don't disrespect the idea of doing what you can but I'm not down with the folks who propose the use of improvised weapons as a reason for not allowing carry. Subtle point. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 11, 2011, 04:28 PM	#53
R1145 Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 351	None of the above... YMMV, but, generally: 1. Draw weapon; 2. Maneuver to cover/concealment/position of advantage, setting up a clear background for the shot; 3. Issue verbal commands for suspect to drop the weapon, if subject has not yet begun to shoot; 4. Engage as necessary to protect self and others.

January 11, 2011, 07:09 PM	#54
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	You know, if the guy is shooting other people, I won't be issuing any verbal commands to the shooter. He knows what he is doing wrong. He knows he will be engaged. I just don't see any reason to warn him. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

January 11, 2011, 09:33 PM	#55
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Tacoma Mall - that's says it for me with an active shooter shooting away. Also, in training - you can get the drop on someone and he or she can shoot you while you are flapping your gums. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 10, 2011, 07:04 PM	#52
steve54 Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 29	I'd be trying my best to make myself invisible while looking/moving for cover and drawing my weapon

January 11, 2011, 10:35 PM	#56
oldkim Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 462	Tacoma Mall shooting... I was about 12 miles from Tacoma Mall when this happened in 2005. If I hadn't been shopping for a car in Federal Way we were headed for the mall. I don't know if we would of been in the exact location the shooting happened but I always play the "what If" game... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Mall_shooting Verbally warning was a bad idea but re-holstering the firearm was worse. Too bad he's now paralyzed and we the people have to still pay to keep this nut behind bars. __________________ "Shoot Safetly, Shoot Often and Share Your Sport." Jim Scoutten, Shooting USA Check out my new website: www.shootonthemove.org